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hispanomc
Traffic Value: $9,334.85757 Spain
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09/07/2015 10:36
ccarlosdulce


Hey, the TOS include the possibility to change them without any reason and whenever they want.
I would like to refund any advertiser, but if our liquidity is in danger, we cannot and we can enforce our right to change TOS at any moment.


I also dont like to avoid refunds by changing TOS, but they have the right to. And it is only a 5 days extension. It would be greedy if advertisers do not accept a 5 days extension in their campaigns.



BTW: if you are promoting scams it is your problem, not PV problem. Do not invest money on scams and you would not have these kind of problems
jagodinac123
Traffic Value: $390.26943 Serbia
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09/07/2015 10:40
yallit

your post is excellent and with concrete suggestions!!!

it`s just unfortunate it got left as the last one on the previous page and I doubt enough users will see it (I just hope at least our management will).

so in short... thumbs up for yallit`s post !
ccarlosdulce
Traffic Value: $14,551.54628 Belgium
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09/07/2015 10:50
@hispanomc


You just signal a great weakness of MTV's TOS... That line "MTV can change TOS without any reason and can put what they want" Should be erased and modified .... and even if there is any logical reasons to make changes (Not because they did mistakes and want members to pay for it) then that changes should be applied from the change date... 



Tell me mate... How will you feel if they announce that your FTQ will return 5% instead of 170% and you could be paid tomorrow ? 


We should learn something => We have to know when to SAY NO not always be agree with what the Daily News tells and be Logic ... if you want this buisness grow up we should improve our behaviour and our solutions. this is my thoughts.


And am not promoting any scam pages btw...


saludos amigo smile

[MOD EDIT : remove excessive formatting- Missi]
TheDarkness
Traffic Value: $5,278.37238 Germany
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09/07/2015 10:53
The problem is:
First of all, take a look at the tos, do you see it stating they will be refunded within 185 days or 180? It states 180. So it wasnt changed but the tos were simply broken, again.
Then take a look at laws, its not legal to change the tos without a notification, did we get a notification? no. (Yes the tos states it would be possible to edit without notification but the law doesnt agree with that law>tos, but we dont care about law here, so what am i saying)
Besides of that i think there might some laws which forbid changing rules for a purchased product. But even if not it will be a very long way until were legal seeing how tos get simply broken multiple times. (But iam not sure anymore, do we want to be legal?)

Just to all the smart... saying "but its in the tos, so we can actually legally do whatever the hell we want" if the tos got changed to "we can legally take everything you own" would that also be okey since its in the tos?
elenaml
Traffic Value: $1,554.92245 Bulgaria
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09/07/2015 10:59
@TheDarkness
The problem is:
That they can do whatever they want....
Crimson
Traffic Value: $1,850.32389 Romania
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09/07/2015 11:00
OH.People getting overexcited again.Just accept it.People have no real say in here.The owners only have.
devrawl
Traffic Value: $1,068.2225 Romania
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Crimson
Traffic Value: $1,850.32389 Romania
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09/07/2015 11:04
Anything can happen on the internet,dont get caught with your guard down.....
hispanomc
Traffic Value: $9,334.85757 Spain
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09/07/2015 11:05
ccarlosdulce


Tell me mate, what bussiness do you want to improve/develope if we are just bankrupt?


I dont know how it is our current liquidity, but if to refund advertisers we have to stop paying salaries and office's rentings, i support ANY change on the TOS.


I will accept a change in my FTQ returns if without changes i will simply not be paid.


I understand your opinion, but please, understand company's postion. We have to ensure our survival, after that we can take care of our user's happiness.
knix
Traffic Value: $27,084.60437 Germany
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09/07/2015 11:06
Crimson

Of course it can. But if you act like the normal internet investment program, don't claim to go legal.
That's just ridiculous. sideways
Crimson
Traffic Value: $1,850.32389 Romania
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09/07/2015 11:09
We are not legal ,yet,and i dont know if we will ever be.
erkaelle
Traffic Value: $23,170.7108 France
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09/07/2015 11:12
If they continue to do that type of things we will never be legal. Changing the TOS when people sign for the old TOS for their campaign is illegal.
If you get a lawsuit don't complaign MTV.
jordy186
Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands
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09/07/2015 11:17
maybe they should add a button where everybody can get his remaining 30s ads exchanged at a rate of $0.001
Rightchoice
Traffic Value: $6,650.95153 Finland
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09/07/2015 11:18
If we had this 1 line in TOS we would have been fine even now.. 

IN the event of Force majeure the ad campaign timers will be extended for the amount of days the Force majeure lasts. Simple as that tongue


I mean I am not legal expert But I do read every TOS I come across in the services I use. This Latin sentence comes across in very many of them. 
Knipe
Traffic Value: $554.83245 Israel
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09/07/2015 11:23
Is it just me or admins here just change tos as they feel comfortable with? you didnt hold your end of the deal so you just change it?
hlrive
Traffic Value: $384.50396 United States
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09/07/2015 11:26
What should be done is that in the TOS change it to reflect that just in case of downtime of site or servers, depending on the time if 1 week downtime then 2 extra days may be needed to deliver the ad campaigns, and if one week downtime should happen then an extra 5 days will be added to make up for lost time.

Advertisers should know that unexpected things happen, and that sometimes you must extend ads. It is just that simple. If they don't understand it then they should quit buying ads.
billionaire
Traffic Value: $4,963.69955 India
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09/07/2015 11:26
[MOD EDIT : It is against forum rules to discuss outstanding support tickets in the forum. It will not help get attention to it any quicker. Thanks - Missi]
hlrive
Traffic Value: $384.50396 United States
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09/07/2015 11:29
@ erkaelle


And how many advertisers read the TOS in the first place? Look at how many folks have posted porn on here yet it's against the TOS, I don't believe many people even look at the TOS until when something like this comes up, then they all start yelling about how it's against it.
Stephanos9
Traffic Value: $1,685.19331 Cyprus
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09/07/2015 11:34
The solution would be simple, extend the refund days after counting all the days we were under maintenance, since the business was down, the days should have froze, simple as that.  No ads were delivered those days anyway.
roidz
Traffic Value: $24,334.30701 Italy
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09/07/2015 11:36
if you change the tos, all people could ask for a refund to paypal, i think this is not a good thing.. we still dont have "our" 1 million back from paypal..
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