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ubodlaj
Traffic Value: $10,430.05546 Slovenia
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28/12/2014 11:38
Hey , now I am wondering what should I do with money ? before debt swap. 
Buy shares(they are cheap atm) ? 
martyboy
Traffic Value: $1,685.37887 Lithuania
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28/12/2014 11:39
People PLEASE have patience. I know many have a lot of questions, but listen to the old members, they like me was from begining and everything was OK. You will earn and programs don't disapear, but PLEASE don't go to panic, i know a lot of members have saved the money and will add again, plus we will have full time workers (programmers) who will brings out new products like targeted ads and poker in the nearest future.
BE PATIENCE MTV/PV is not a scam, you will get shares, all who are interested to go through this business will stay and your negative words can destroy everything.
THANK YOU smile
martis
Traffic Value: $910.14287 Lithuania
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28/12/2014 11:40
I also do not agree with the perspective that Jo is looking up to Mike. He made a wrong decision, we all do. But why then he has to be protected out of his own loss? It just doesn't feel right to me. I bought shares, invested in PV as well, I did not forseen this to happen, so it is my own fault. As same as Mike's.
lg1500
Traffic Value: $3,227.40257 Poland
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28/12/2014 11:42
1 usd = 5600 bap now, jo you killed this site
polo26
Traffic Value: $2,211.17614 France
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28/12/2014 11:44
if this swap happens is that PV is out of breath
but respect provide an ROI of 155% for 1 year is enormous we must be lucidsmile

with this reset there will be losers in the short term But if most of the members do not panic it will be able sell their shares in a few weeks and make a profit

I think the addition of multi poker will give a boost to MTV like PV in his time

before PV there were 2 swaps in 1 year
PV has arrived and there is 1 swap in 11 months
then cumulative PV + poker the next swap will come  in the next 18 months or +
and more there will be  products and less there will swap

we must stop of dreaming
no company can provide 155% ROI indefinitely, technically it is impossible  it,is obliged  to make adjustments
axl100
Traffic Value: $60.77536 Greece
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28/12/2014 11:45
i'll buy shares too, when the price drop to $0.001 The real price of the shares is $0.002 above that is just bubble. (1m cash- cash debt)  / 380 mil shares wink
mkurdas
Traffic Value: $1,289.82794 France
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28/12/2014 11:46
@tenzor7


you forgot something.
first there is now more fees selling your share so you will earn less than the real value
when thousands of members will sell their share to purchase ad pack to increase their

bap the price of the share will be smaller and smaller.


and after what.....when you come back to your level.....another swap ???
mhdnsn
Traffic Value: $12,458.46821 Sri Lanka
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28/12/2014 11:46
Jo, your plan 'B' idea is sucks! I don't like it. sadcwy
BuongiornoM
Traffic Value: $4,733.96792 Slovenia
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28/12/2014 11:46
@ubodlaj


I would buy shares. 
daniel04280
Traffic Value: $2,218.90192 Korea Republic of
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28/12/2014 11:48
@Jo

Well, after reading some posts, I see a bit of problem.

I know what you are trying to do,
I know what you are trying to say and achieve all the goals, yeah, I agree on that.

But,
3) Share price might drop a bit as people quick/panic-sell. Creating more opportunities for bargain hunters. And giving PV some cheap shares to buy up with the new turnover.

Um, yeah, except you are thinking of this.

Scenario:
1. You do a BAP swap
2. As some people panic, cash shares drop highly
3. People who had cash buys up the cheap shares
4. They sell it for expensively
5. They benefit.

Ok, sounds excellent.
How about the people who don't have cash balance right now?
Obviously, people under group 6 can't make enough cash until the BAP swap to buy shares then.

The only way this plan would work
is if people had sufficient amount of cash (at least 30% of total users) to buy the shares
that people who don't have cash are selling for BAP.

Basically,
you are making some super-rich, and others below the poverty line.

I don't know if it will work
as you buy up all the shares because of so much money in your account.

But, remember, you are doing something really dangerous,
but as you are the leader, I don't have a right to say, and as I said, if it confirms the three things,
1. Good for PaidVerts future
2. FTP pays faster
3. Each individual gets better results; not only like 5% of the whole group.

Just, please, read my post,
and I hope you could think about it!
aadheen2010
Traffic Value: $1,574.99202 Pakistan
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28/12/2014 11:50
I just login...............
JO .............What the mess u wanna make....................
Fine u want a swap but what will happen where money will come from to get shares rolling again........
People will not invest for a certain time.........Others gonna sale shares for less and more less...........
Panic............That what u want to create a opportunity for big investors only..........
Who can keep money aside for months...............
What about cent clickers will they trust PV...............
In big picture its going to benefit only share holders(who invest and sleep and then sale).........Remember only 1% of them..........
But for day traders what about them they will be in huge loss.....Will they have confidence in future.......I dont think so..............
MTV was different before without PV...................Consider it................
Things will be same again......I dont think so.......I am against it...............sorry.......................
lali6757
Traffic Value: $3,553.39286 India
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28/12/2014 11:52
starting asking reaction just on bap swap idea within some hour he announced process starts from monday 220bap & operation on 4th jan 2015.he say pv wil be debt free but empty, members will gain more than that of curruntly gaining from ad issue if u hav patience of 1month.he say share price increse without supporting a single argument.how it will increase when every body planing to sell shares to get bap to fill again pv.actually he has no concern who wil get loss or profit of this swap .so if bap swap becomes fail as great concerns expressed here jo will come with his plan B "cash swap? finally with plan C "pending cashout swap"
actually v cant predict wat hell is to see but its fanal even after plan C i m not going to leave pv/mtv .yes digadz will get benifited of it till every thing settled most of pv clickers shall join digadz.




hope jo will succede with his plan a
KJGupta
Traffic Value: $236.73065 India
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28/12/2014 11:53
This is surely a bad idea. Most of the members are in Group 1, so the BAP swap will not affect them, BUT what about the members who are not in Group 1 and who receive decent amount of good value of ad each day? They will hate this idea and in MY opinion, many members will leave the site after cashing out, as they would be in fear of rising their BAP again and turning their hard earned BAP to "zero".

Considering that the BAP of all the members would be turned into shares, and they can sell them afterwards to get their Money/BAP back, but who will buy the shares then? Almost none, as they want to get their Money/BAP back by selling their shares themselves.

So, in my opinion, most of the members will hate this idea of BAP Swap. So, its better not to do the BAP Swap or changing this idea. Hope that most of members would agree with me. Thank you.
BestGames
Traffic Value: $613.52616 Poland
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28/12/2014 11:58
@mkurdas


Why wait six months?
let's swap evey month! grin
Swaping business, I like it. grin
QuilhosKing
Traffic Value: $6,128.74944 Portugal
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28/12/2014 11:58
Jo, I know you don't give a shit about what I say or something like that but it's ok, I will wrote it anyway (with a lot of english errors).

1 - Invest in good programmers

We all know how much time it takes to make the things work fine. But all the time you expect like 1h of maintenance and it was 3 or 4h. You can't do a good prediction of that. 

Site with a lot of buggs (while viewing ads for example), sometimes slow even after you move the site to new servers. I can't get it why but...

2 - Stop with the random ad issue

Why the is always a random time to give ads? This is so frustrating. People can't even plan when they will se the ads when one day you give the ads at 12:00 GMT and the next day you give the ads at 23:00 GMT for example.

It's so difficult to create a script to calculate how much money is available and issue the ads after that? I think it's not (if the programmers works good) and we don't need you all the time to send them for us.

3 - You don't wan't to grow

Five or six months ago I put a topic in brainstorm section about the way we can see the balance on the top of the page. It will take around 20m of the programmers time and you can do it. You answer this will be added to the queue but nothing happens till now.

Besides of that, I have some ideas to improve the way ads are distributed and how the things can be done to work better for everyone else. I have an idea for a game also, better than the Lotto who can replace him or create a new game. I ask what are the language used to program the games on MTV/PV and no one answer. I will code the game alone and send it to you. I don't even wan't anything in exchange. 

But all the time I say something about how we can improve some bits and boobs (it's what you say in news? I don't know if its boobs) you don't care about that. I'm not the Holy Grail or something like that but in my opinion I have some good ideas to improve PV/MTV. 

4 - BAP debt swap

Well, it will work fine, but not now. I like to have 6 million BAP turned into shares and after that start over in PV. It will be good for everyone in the long run but now isn't the time. People will quit the program (for me it's ok since that people don't understand how PV works so they should search for answers instead of quit (and yeah, I have more than 100 referrals and if they all go away it's fine)). 

Not now, wait till February at least and after that you do a full report again and see what it should look like (a lot of people will continue to disagree). But PV isn't broken, for now.

And why you don't use the development funds to do a big mega ad issue after new year? You have lot's of money there and you don't use money for nothing. Where is the casino site? Where is the license for him? C'mon, so much things you can do and you don't do. Hire more programmers. My girlfriend is in home and she can be a general programmer. And you have a lot of people like that for sure. Really good programmers. But the time it takes for us to see some good improvement from the actual programmers...

C'mon Jo. You can do better than this. I know you are with your familly and you need to take advantage of this. But, it's a business and people like solid business and we don't have that since you go to Brasil. Just put some effort, 4 or 5 hours of your time everyday (or even more), put some pressure on the programmers. You are their boss and you need to pressure them. Pay more to them. Just make the site work better and you will see how PV explodes.

EDIT: And Mike is a customer like us so he deserve the same thing we deserve. Not a benefit. When he start sold the shares for BAP, he knows we can have a debt swap. He isn't a new guy in the site wink
userek
Traffic Value: $3,774.29458 Poland
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28/12/2014 11:58
Look at share price(for $).

Haha, that's what "news" can make with people shocked

I'm scared just a bit shut eye
alexbeer
Traffic Value: $129.8045 Germany
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28/12/2014 12:02
Good morning smile
Maybe I am a little stupid, I am not an investor or someone with big money behind. I don't care for shares I think, for me PV and the  "fight" for reaching the next group to get the better valued ads was the interesting thing. Not just holding some shares ... for what ?? Shares are somehow something intangible for me, other than the working in PV to get results.

But, I have a question. What if we swap our shares back for BAPS? (If there a BAPS there again) ... to at least get into a higher group and not to have to start with the beginning ... (and this was horrible, I can remember well clicking those low valued ads) grin

Hm, so where will be the meaning of  the whole action then ?

I say, people are either interested into the concept of PV, or into the concept of MTV or both. But you cannot put everyone in one pot grin People are different. 
bobedit
Traffic Value: $14,529.13147 France
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28/12/2014 12:02
Just a little question dear Jo,

You said that all members will enjoy with their pretty profits after swap...i'm very glad for that!
But, in the same time, you say, you will compensate the losses of few big investors!!!

So, their big profits after swap (like everybody else i presume) are not enough?  For lower and middle investors, the profits would be so enormous that they would also pay (by PV-MTV) compensations for these persons?

I'm sure i'm not very intelligent, but i don't understand that....or i have another interpretation, maybe?!
Emesz001
Traffic Value: $7,549.88278 Germany
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28/12/2014 12:38
Jo, what will be price for share then 232 bap or 220/221 bap, or maybe You dont know that in this point?, if it possible please give us certain price.
grodt
Traffic Value: $1,053.10686 Serbia
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28/12/2014 12:39
What exchange rate will be? How much do you lose BAP for one share at that BAP swap?
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