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Plan B... for "Bap Swap"

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missi Traffic Value: $12,691.63746 Australia 20 like this post 0 people 28/12/2014 09:41 So it starts with Jo  27/12/2014 22:57 I came up with this train of thought today...  It needs to be improved / evolved at least one step before it'll work / be sufficiently attractive to pull off. This is only an idea right now... And it may not be necessary... But let's talk about it.  to  Jo Traffic Value: $5,138,723.49004 Spain Like 17 like this post   Disagree 2 people 28/12/2014 05:18 First draft of some example text: Jo Traffic Value: $5,138,723.49004 Spain Like 4 like this post   Disagree 1 people 28/12/2014 05:31 The final swap price will be determined on Monday... When we disable new ad purchases (for an entire week) ; and know exactly how much debt is in the system. And how many shares we have to issue. * No shares are being created, we're just giving back the shares PV has purchased this year. * We are not in any financial troubles, we're 100% liquid... I am just trying to get guaranteed growth for PaidVerts & MTV in the New Year, as this is a good window of opportunity. I don't want to miss it on a 50/50 "do nothing" gamble. * Daily ad issues will roll like normal. But they'll be small as we stop all ad purchases.  Jo Traffic Value: $5,138,723.49004 Spain Like 7 like this post   Disagree 0 people 28/12/2014 05:39 I'm going to sleep on this; and see what i think in the morning.  But assuming my logic survives the night -- we'll initiate this tomorrow night / Monday (closing ad purchases, & adding the notification messages). And on Sunday 4th January; we'll do the swap. And Monday we'll re-open PV for business, debt free! Ad issues will roll all this week, be them small issues. Dividing up whatever we've got left to issue. And we'll see how we go! So Jo, wheres the actual conversation? Or did you make a mistake at the beginning and you meant to say heres your dictation for the New Year.  There have been many questions here that have gone ignored? overlooked? in either case just not addressed satisfactorily for something you first put out there as "something to talk about"  You are making a habit out of saying one thing and doing something entirely different. Some will remain in trust to you, but you are not the golden god to everyone yet where everyone will see your logic. You are clever but your arrogance at times is quite despicable to see and receive. It is not just "whiney" people who disagree here but many questions you have failed to answer yet you have made up your mind.  Honestly... why did you even bother asking us to talk about it if you were going ahead regardless anyway? newguy1 Traffic Value: $17,897.90531 United States 8 like this post 0 people 28/12/2014 09:41 I have been around and have success and I also had a friend who was part admin of a site that we lost because Paypal decided to close our account out of the blue and I spent an entire day trying to calm the users that they weren't scammed and trying to beg PayPal to change their decision which they wouldn't. I've been around for many scam sites, but i knew better not to invest much into them. This would be my worst investment ever if it goes wrong.  Great post Missi. I didn't like him telling me I'm whining. I have a lot of experience in business management so yes I'm a little flustered at the actions I'm seeing here.  sepson Traffic Value: $637.652 Croatia (LOCAL Name: Hrvatska) 5 like this post 0 people 28/12/2014 09:42 I'm not that this sugest si the right choice... So many people invested their money, their time and effort to build status in PV and this practically be deceived and I think that more then 50% of current user will leave the system. I think it should be more efect if MTV team set their orientation on new product development - ex. Texas Holdem Poker, Microtasking (somethnig like microworkers), finding a partner program/shops when PV user can purchase products for BAP's ... you need to take advantage of a large base of members, and if you offer them more opportunities they will remain your loyal users, and they will draw new users and fresh capital SijoCJ Traffic Value: $892.42899 India 0 like this post 0 people 28/12/2014 09:43 Not yet Decided by JO? milion Traffic Value: $1,903.73424 Poland 3 like this post 0 people 28/12/2014 09:50 So everything is set. That is "just an idea" by Jo. I'm pretty pissed. kdhiep1101 Traffic Value: $13,394.59925 Viet Nam 8 like this post 3 people 28/12/2014 09:52 Nooooooooo !!! Please remove that idea out of your head, Jo. It will kill PV. BuongiornoM Traffic Value: $4,733.96792 Slovenia 7 like this post 0 people 28/12/2014 10:04 Ok. I am here only a month and I must say that PV and MTV were not as I planned it to be. But every single thing was explained and the system is really opened. I trust PV and MTV even I haven’t earned yet. The only thing I am scared of right now are little people who are losing hope because the December was not as it should be and now Jo wants to make new changes. If all those people go and leave MTV we will all lose.    People have trust! You might not earn few dollars for one or two months, maybe even half a year (probably just a month) but eventually you will get all your money and a lot more. Now you get your PV investment money back in half a year. But if PV slows down this can take longer. If the ads issues will be as in December it will take double the time and if ads comes even smaller, it will take even longer.   I trust Jo by doing a BAP swap and I have 3M bap that I will lose some %, but I believe that I will get my money and more sooner than half a year. Jo has proven that he knows what he is doing, and I believe that it is also his profit that PV and MTV grow and expand.    But Jo!  1. Somehow inform all PV users that BAP swap will happen and what is the best thing to do in near future (as not all are reading MTV forum) and we do not want scam scam scam all over internet. Inform them at least 1 week prior to BAP swap.   2. Add credit card (visa) withdrawal and deposits to MTV.   3. Open a new site with online poker. Poker shouldn’t be just a game as other on MTV but should have full specs as let’s say Pokerstars or other online poker sites. The site should be connected with MTV but separate, similar as PV and MTV. With poker we can earn 100k+ a of clean profit per week.   4. Let people see that MTV is growing and new things are on the way. – Not just words, so people will gain trust again.    kdhiep1101 Traffic Value: $13,394.59925 Viet Nam 1 like this post 2 people 28/12/2014 10:15 Please remove that idea out of your head, Jo!!! We know very well you are trying to help develop PV & MTV. But do not be foolish, it's really stupid. Everyone will leave PV if you do so. nursemorph Traffic Value: $1,491.12314 United Kingdom 9 like this post 0 people 28/12/2014 10:17 Okay, since I wrote earlier, it would appear I don't understand this at all. Seems like it will be: PV earnings for a few months will only be available to those with significant external investment; major share roadblocks from users selling huge volumes of shares; 99% of users will be wanting to sell shares to get BAP back but the 1% won't be able to buy all those shares so the price will plateau or freefall. I can see how this can benefit everyone in the long-term but, the question is can the businesses sustain the chaos in the short-term? I'm not so sure about that myself at the moment. Ultimately, I don't understand how we have gone from "PV's income/usage will skyrocket in the New year" to "This is needed as PV has slowed down too much" in the space of a day or two? Perhaps I missed some news somewhere but, as far as I can tell, the only real reasons for PV slowing is the combination of the Christmas period and the length of time it has taken to sort out the servers and fix the issues created by it. Maybe I am just not as intelligent as I thought but if I can't quite grasp it (having a good understanding of English and being fairly intelligent) then I can see why a huge number of users also won't understand it. That's my opinion anyway....there was no intention to be negative or criticise the decision as I have more important things to worry about in life than money but just to point out the questions I have bondbond Traffic Value: $649.16215 India 0 like this post 1 people 28/12/2014 10:29 JO Read This Fire away with your comments / suggestions! This is only an idea right now... And it may not be necessary... But let's talk about it. My Opinion NO. This Not a good Idea. Pls Run the PV as IT like.Because Most of the People Loose faith on PV .and If we re start the PV No body will work on PV. I think this is Completely a Bad IDEa.Don't do this Jo thekool1s Traffic Value: $1,195.35083 Pakistan 1 like this post 0 people 28/12/2014 10:32 The only problem here is jo you are assuming is that people will buy ads again after they sell their shares what if people lose faith and none of them buy ads what happens in that scenario? And once you get your paypal and payza blocked the system will die. 1 Thing which i do not get is From where will the money come to pay the 155% in 48 hours or so? The best thing to do will be atleast convince people that after swap buy ads and you will get return alot faster. minhnguyen Traffic Value: $4,959.41271 Viet Nam 4 like this post 2 people 28/12/2014 10:41 Actually I'm very disappointed in you , sir Jo . I think , I do not want what you 're doing , let everything becomes normal as the day I put complete trust in qua.confidence padiverts website , but now I see what you are for what Jo eh . ! NO. This Not a good Idea. Pls Run the PV as IT like.Because Most of the People Loose faith on PV .and If we re start the PV No body will work on PV. maiyeuemnn Traffic Value: $11,350.84137 Viet Nam 0 like this post 0 people 28/12/2014 10:43 JO I DON'T CARE about it, but carefully before do anything  RoXoR97 Traffic Value: $615.09793 Saudi Arabia 1 like this post 0 people 28/12/2014 10:44 We can buy shares anytime but we cannot buy bap Plz dont do bap swap mio2815 Traffic Value: $32,608.39303 Germany 6 like this post 0 people 28/12/2014 10:44 I couldn´t say better than bigbadmoose so I just copy paste: Who going to buy all this stock Jo? everyone going to be putting every dime they have left into either getting more BAP or getting the hell out of the program. Like I said earlier this is a death sentence to PV and most likely will hurt MTV in the long run too. Let go with plan 1 or 2 and see what happen. Make you a deal you can have all my BAP if you promise to hire some programmers that can keep the site running right. That is what is killing PV right now. It been down 2 week out of the last month. and for almost 3 month before that it was limping along cause your programmer had no idea the site was in trouble from getting to many people on it. They still have not got it working error free that is driving more people off then low ad values. While your speaking of Ads If they would get issues at the around the same time every day we could get the site growing again. People get annoyed waiting on them all day and just give up on it. Just one more thing: today I stopped my promoting of PV because I don´t know anymore what to tell potential Refs. Everyday new changes instead of making PV and MTV working without all these bugs.   BuongiornoM Traffic Value: $4,733.96792 Slovenia 1 like this post 0 people 28/12/2014 10:44 After BAP swap I will (would) buy ad campaigns. As much as I can afford (not a lot thow). The ads will be much better as they are now. Few extra dollars invested will not kill me. And all who are smart will invest again and leave shares to wait few weeks. And when shares will raise to the price that you will not lose, and then the swap for Bap will happened.  Faquih2789 Traffic Value: $214.2541 Pakistan 0 like this post 0 people 28/12/2014 10:48 this means that the market value of shares which is 0.047$ per share right now will rise to 0.11$ per share???? shinodax Traffic Value: $561.64211 Algeria 0 like this post 0 people 28/12/2014 10:48 i think is not a good idea !!! if the sale of shares  "then you must purchase shares of a new?" or How to calculate profits ? Doragonneko Traffic Value: $1,699.92249 Lithuania 0 like this post 0 people 28/12/2014 10:54 what about the dividends? If I get 14000 shares of this how much could I expect to gain from this? BestGames Traffic Value: $613.52616 Poland 1 like this post 0 people 28/12/2014 10:55 @BuongiornoM ... and who is going to click in your new ads? Many PV users don't even know about MTV and they do not care about shares. They are just clickers cashing $2 or so, after clicking ads furiously. If you make their accounts on zero, they will leave leaving posts about the scam on the internet worldwide. Someone wrote today that this swap is different one. Share price was driven up by PV and new members joining PV. If you scarce small fishes, who is going to drive share price higher??? Perhaps Mike is going to buy his own shares higher and the price will go up!?

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