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bigbadmoose
Traffic Value: $520.60691 United States
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27/12/2014 23:50
What happen to we doing so great this Is going to be the first year we start out not being almost bankrupt. Sound like you want to kill PV off now. Cause if you do this you can pretty much say the program is dead. Cause how is anyone going to be able to keep working since no one will have money to buy BAP and we cant sell the shares cause no one is going to want to buy them.

Sound like the transparency leader of our has been lieing  to us or he just want to keep up his tradition of having some kind of debt swap every year. 
Jo
Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain
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27/12/2014 23:50
No... PayPal is about buying ad campaigns. BAP is nothing. It has no specific value.

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And here are the three scenarios for our immediate future as far as I can see;

1) Continue as we are, running it by the book. Maintaining 100% liquidity... Results will be slow for the next week or two. And then with luck and a bit of saving up; we'll get growth in the new year. And all happy days.

* However growth is not guaranteed, as our results aren't amazing / not a massive incentive to spur growth... And without growth its hard to do amazing results... Bit of catch 22... But it may happen, as we have stability & scale on our side, and a high probability of a long term future...
But if it doesn't go well, then PV stalls, and results will go lousy for a good period of time whilst debt is eroded away and things pick up again naturally or via a new portfolio product.... That is not an ideal scenario, as it's long winded and slow.

or

2) Similar route to the above... except to spur growth we invest in higher results. Using dev funding, and/or by breaking liquidity. Taking the gamble that big results will guarantee growth, and with growth you can restore liquidity in a heartbeat.

This obviously involves risk. And if it goes to hell, then a full debt swap will be required. And that swap price will be a lot worse than $0.11 per share. I should think $0.40-$0.50 or more.... And full swaps of cash are more messy. People like them even less. And subsequently the rebound will take longer. With a higher risk of burning a premium payment processor.

or

3) The above BAP swap. Swap BAP for shares. Create a huge void in PV; for which any user that fills it will earn instantly. And this will lead to crazy turnover & growth; which makes everyone loads of money. And will push the share price up very quickly, easily surpassing the swap price.

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Option 1 is the "no change" and "sensible" option that everybody likes. But has a high risk of boring us all to death. And driving the business into the ground via inaction.

Option 2 is the high risk, high reward option. With perceived stability (no changes as far as the user can see). But in reality; rocky road!! Risky & Dangerous.

Option 3 is the "change" option that nobody likes. But is likely the best & fastest way forward. And certainly the most predictable!
Catt
Traffic Value: $1,193.5857 Brazil
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27/12/2014 23:53
If you trust your business and your instincts go for 2... after all, doing a swap later if everything goes to hell would be justified, doing a BAP swap now is not.
If you dont trust your instincts or the new products planned, go for 1.

There is no reason to 'destroy' something that is going well. Results were diminished lately because of the server problems. You say yourself they are about to be solved and we will be stable again and even have new products - like multiplayer poker - so I see no reason to take such a hasty and risky attitude as that BAP swap.
countrading
Traffic Value: $192.35031 Portugal
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27/12/2014 23:54
Honestly, i think it would be a low blow, for the users strategy as the credibility of the system.

Bad strategy...
Jo
Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain
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27/12/2014 23:55
And this talk about "losing BAP" that's taken you months to save up. Is not a correct way of thinking. You have ____ BAP. Which is worth $_____ when it all turns into cash.

At the current rate; turning that all into cash will take many months. And involve viewing lots of ads.

With the swap... your BAP turns into shares, which you can sell in about 30days for your full 155% ROI. Or a lot quicker for 100% ROI.... Thereby your BAP has turned into cash in as little as 30days via the swap vs multiple months without swap.

And once it's in cash... you can buy ads again. And you've got more BAP than you started with. ie. You've made money, and quickly.
Whynot
Traffic Value: $4,289.08875 United States
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27/12/2014 23:55
Where are all these new investors supposed to come from, you've already got most users available money, & now you want to kill OUR liquidity, tying up in shares for how long, 6 months a year?
mriley
Traffic Value: $45,656.25089 United States
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27/12/2014 23:56
Just posted this in the news, but I'll copy to here:

Jo--

If needing to reduce ad inventory is the issue, I'd look into alternate ways of getting ads into the laps of those who are truly "hungry" to click them. Ad Grid, the "Ad Pot" I brought up last night, these type of things that give users that want to click an outlet to do so. 

Sure a bunch of people bitch when you send them a mess of .0005 ads, but there's also thousands out there that happily click away without complaining.


I think looking into alternative might be a better route that the drastic debt swap, which although would probably be successful, would freak-out the majority of user here.
newguy1
Traffic Value: $17,897.90531 United States
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27/12/2014 23:56
I just shelled out over 7k out of pocket to get to where I am on your site and now you want to make up this scenario that might hurt me and others...? I guess I'm not fully understanding it, but I didn't join this opportunity to get taken for a ride. With all your positive talk and how wonderful things are going, this action for "if things are hard to get going in the new year" is a big surprise to me. So should I just stop now? Should I halt all investing and just work to cash out? 

Please explain why you are even considering this.....

I don't want only shares, hence why I bought my way to level 12 and have been accumulationg shares to make my way to the higher groups. Turning everything I have into shares is not what I want. I wanted income on paidverts and growth. 
disobey45
Traffic Value: $639.16403 Lithuania
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27/12/2014 23:57
imho... 

its bad idea
Tony125s
Traffic Value: $2,081.0882 United States
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27/12/2014 23:57
I agree with you Jo, Just sell shares and get yourself back in a high ad group. More of each dollar invested in ads will be returned to you since there is less debt to pay off.  So this would make PV earn higher even if you might be in a lower bap group. (Since everybody will)
Padoks
Traffic Value: $7,007.68709 Switzerland
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27/12/2014 23:57
If I understood it, you want to turn BAPs into Shares. Hell NO!
Sorry, but you can imagine how much people have tried and put their efforts to get where they are? Now, you just want to change the concept? That would be highly unserious from MTV/PV and would ruin confidence of many.

Do not touch daily ad issues!
Jo
Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain
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27/12/2014 23:59
This is the only problem with swaps... Nobody understands them. You only see right now. Not the opportunity created 24hours from now.

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Forget your current investment for a second, think about this:
What if tomorrow PV had no debt. And you could buy an ad campaign; and get 10-50% daily ROI via ad issues.

How many people would invest?
How quickly would PV grow?

If PV grows... we know that we all make money. As everything turns over more quickly, share price rises. Fast Track Queue Revenue rocket. Everything is good. Everyone makes money.

Why is it a bad thing?
Just because you earn money via selling shares rather than clicking ads? Is that so important?
Catt
Traffic Value: $1,193.5857 Brazil
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28/12/2014 00:01
I don´t see THE NEED to do that... if we consider everything you tell us and all the info you give is there is NO NEED to do such a thing right now... 
LastPlays
Traffic Value: $1,587.41198 Spain
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28/12/2014 00:01
Ok, Jo, for you, the best option is the third, but what about groups, daily ads, and all?

I'm at full on PV, I'm going to invest all I earn on mini-jobs of "real life" to PV, and I wanted to be on a high group to get high ads and a high rent per month.

So, tell us, what is going to be the Group?
How can I know on where Group am I?, do you gonna change BAPs for shares and we're going to be on "x" group if we got "x" shares, or what? I don't get It.

Or PV ad's is just going to disappear?...

Really, I'm so confused with the option of the change.
Tony125s
Traffic Value: $2,081.0882 United States
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28/12/2014 00:02
This is how to revitalize PV for the long-term and stop it from a possible slow death
harriette
Traffic Value: $12,342.70038 Netherlands
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28/12/2014 00:02
@Jo

Jo If you decide to do this it would be honest to give everybody the exact time so we can act on it !!
roderick48
Traffic Value: $4.35812 Australia
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28/12/2014 00:03
Don't care about making lots of money fast, don't really understand what your talking about but it seems that if your not in the know your going to get ripped off.  I plan on building a downline eventually, specifically for those who do not know how to build one, like me atm, and for those on a disability pension in my area that I can get to and help set up to do the work. ie hold there hand, provide support and show them how to get free equipment written off on tax if they register a business.  Being incapacitated and unable to do the work you were trained for, with little or no help is devastating, I count myself lucky that I am in Australia and not a third world country as I would be dead, now I am wanting to help others, as I know there is a lot more our government and individuals should be doing for those who have had the bad luck of getting run over in life.  Who makes up the share price, are you listed on an interchange, better yet, is it legal what you want to do?
bigbadmoose
Traffic Value: $520.60691 United States
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28/12/2014 00:04
Who going to buy all this stock Jo? everyone going to be putting every dime they have left into either getting more BAP or getting the hell out of the program. Like I said earlier this is a death sentence to PV and most likely will hurt MTV in the long run too.



Let go with plan 1 or 2 and see what happen. Make you a deal you can have all my BAP if you promise to hire some programmers that can keep the site running right. That is what is killing PV right now. It been down 2 week out of the last month. and for almost 3 month before that it was limping along cause your programmer had no idea the site was in trouble from getting to many people on it.


They still have not got it working error free that is driving more people off then low ad values. While your speaking of Ads If they would get issues at the around the same time every day we could get the site growing again. People get annoyed waiting on them all day and just give up on it.
totosky
Traffic Value: $1,191.03362 Philippines
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28/12/2014 00:08
The problem is if this pushes through will there be investors to push the share price back up. "The Golden Opportunity".
rapidleech
Traffic Value: $2,368.44924 Iran (ISLAMIC Republic Of)
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28/12/2014 00:09
the best help to pv is reducing ROI

ive mentioned this 100 times

ROI must be 110-130 % not 155% to achieve sustainable model


This is the only problem with my suggest ... Nobody understands it jo smile
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