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Plan B... for "Bap Swap"

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web30man
Traffic Value: $161.87766 United States
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28/12/2014 00:11
Jo please maintain integrity, so mean what you state and state what you mean. We would be much far along if people felt that you do what you state. You bring things up like the recent slot slash view to get a chance to win one of ten prizes but nothing happened. You stated on paidverts targeted ads coming soon, and that's been coming sense 3/31/14. I was apart of the first couple of people pushing you to do Paidverts and I beta tested with out any kind of compensation but that's alright. People need to see that you are loyal to your base here. So if you do the above, then Mytrafficvalue and Paidverts will thrive. Thanks and jesus is blessing us, amen.
newguy1
Traffic Value: $17,897.90531 United States
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28/12/2014 00:11
I see Paidverts advertised everywhere! MTV? Never... I seriously hope you throw this sudden idea out the window, because you are going to hurt a lot of people if you do this. 
Whynot
Traffic Value: $4,289.08875 United States
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28/12/2014 00:12
Jo, that's fine for anyone with extra cash, they can take advantage of the new scenario, all be it at the expense of all the users, that cannot afford to invest more. I will not enjoy sitting on the sidelines, watching new users get these fantastic returns you talk of, while I patiently wait for shares to increase just to recoup seed money.
Jo
Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain
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28/12/2014 00:12
Another factoid...
There are approximately 1,250,000 shares on the marketplace right now between the current price and $0.10/share. (And 500k of those I think is one user pushing the price down).

But to buy all those shares requires only ~$80k... Which would only require 160k of ad purchases at PV (assuming we invest all 50% in buying shares)

The share price will hit $0.10+ very quickly in my opinion. As removing the debt from PV instantly increases the value of the business... And the growth that we'd get from a system with 60,000+ active users basically paying 10%+ daily again would be phenomenal.

And our business with $4m debt = current price
Same Business without $4m debt = high price obviously!


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Right now... this is just a brainstorm. Getting a feel for peoples reactions, and letting the idea sink in and propagate. If we decide to act upon it; we'll let you know before hand. You'll have several days notice at least.

We need to sort our bugs out first. And likely best waiting for January.

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And I wonder if we plan to do this... we could suspend ad issues for 72hours or so. Save up any revenues that come in; 100% of which we use to buy more shares. To try and get an even better swap price.
Mentysis
Traffic Value: $4,897.89575 Italy
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28/12/2014 00:13
Things should be optimized before changing them.
1 - You have recovered the company's image
Everytime you do a debt swap it irremediably ruins the image of the business and it is hard to recover this loss everytime.
2 - You built trust and people followed this business
People trust Paidverts as it is (even if the site is facing thousands of problems everyday), I think that it became boring just because of the technical problems. It requires time and programmers, it is just a matter of time.
3 - People want stable business
Paidverts is first of all an advertising Platform, and there are many things to be optimized - introduced (ie: Targeted Ads, Games, etc), and this will build trust and more revenues.

This is what I think but I am ready to follow this business whatever happen.
Tbiz
Traffic Value: $4,013.67386 Canada
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28/12/2014 00:16
because jo the past shows it takes alot more time to mature towards the swapped price then u say. 1 month?

first swap to seconds swap to then profit took more thne half a year.
past says it does put you stuck for a long time waiting to hit that roi 155% price mentioned. the thing that MAKES the site and portfolio peek are good new products.!
why not get a move on with the poker? then after the poker make any choice? who knows the poker puts everything back in order profit wise. and if not i still feel that that skilled game website woud make atleast half the growth as we did with paidverts and alot of people woud spend part of daily profit on these 100% riskfree for the house consept meaning the more popular the more profit like 5% on every game!? we got what 100k users? active?! do u realise your own community potential? towards making products?!

get that skilled based games website up ASAP. and i BET YOU major growth and major debt removal due there is simply just winnings for the site! and people in luck coud spend profits some atleast woud spend profits on investing in either paidverts or mtv. others spend there daily profit of paidverts/mtv in those skillbased games either way u take cuts for rev everywere then wink
calne
Traffic Value: $975.91894 Canada
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28/12/2014 00:16
just wondering, who is going to buy up everyone's shares? Low groups won't have enough income to buy any and not sure if high group will want to buy them all. I know even myself wait for ad issue to buy some shares and i am sure a lot of others do the same
harriette
Traffic Value: $12,342.70038 Netherlands
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28/12/2014 00:17
I fully understand all the comments about the bab swap but Jo does not think about it for nothing .
There is a very big chance the ads issues will be lower and lower if we do not do the ad swap and than everybody is very unhappy .Be prepared if we go on like normal that wel all will have very low ad issues in the future .
HELLASion
Traffic Value: $150.69194 Greece
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28/12/2014 00:22
I can not see any risk at the swap scenario. Or maybe i can not understand it. I can understand all the members that have invested to BAP GROUPS and now afraid for their efforts and monthly hardwork they have done, however i think that our investments in BAP and ADS will bring faster results as shares after the swap... Also the "restart" at the BAP Groups may be more profitable than before... 
So if i am not wrong all the invested money on ads and baps will turn into shares, something that will bring results faster....
On the other hand i can see risks on plan 1 and 2...It is only an opinion!!
polo26
Traffic Value: $2,211.17614 France
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28/12/2014 00:22
reduce R.0.I is not a solution
PV is based on a system ponzi anyway (the truth must be said)
 
we must create more products of revenue net
games are a good start, then poker and targeted ads ... and be less dependent on purchasing ads

regarding the swap will be a reset of PV which are not a bad thing 
, but it will be devastating for the confidence, many PV members do not even know that MTV exists and for them the shares that is unknown
newguy1
Traffic Value: $17,897.90531 United States
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28/12/2014 00:23
Please don't do this Jo....

You keep talking shares shares shares.... I didn't join for shares. I joined for the income on Paidverts... How much more do I have to send to your site to have you consider your users that have built up their Paidverts accounts? 50K? 100K? What will it take?  You guys are always saying how good it is to have debt and now you are going back on what you keep telling us. I don't throw thousands of dollars at things for the hell of it. 

Why the sudden change from your normal tone? Should everyone just cancel all their Paidverts recruiting ads if they will be a waste of advertising money to get people here now? You tell us, since you considering something to destroy what everyone has been building to. 
teenbeme
Traffic Value: $41,504.84056 United States
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28/12/2014 00:23
Jo....
I see PV and MTV on very stable ground. Let's see how the new year plays out. Give it say 2 months. If we become "bored" and at a stand still, we can consider other options ( ie. as swaps )
Mike...
Tell us your thoughts...
MikeMazzone
Traffic Value: $1,181,925.44366 United States
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28/12/2014 00:25
I'm sure the bap swap will work well and make more ad purchases more attractive.  If you wanna lessen the blow for me for selling so many to get to 500 mil bap, just give me double the shares I would normally get from the swap otherwise.

My main concern is are the servers prepared for how huge were gonna get in 2015?  It'll be awesome once credit card purchases are integrated.
AlexPro1
Traffic Value: $1,524.78449 Paraguay
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28/12/2014 00:26
Jo do the best for the sake of users and page .
Jo
Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain
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28/12/2014 00:26
Development of MTV is continuing regardless.
Paul has just begun working for us full time. We're about to setup a mini programming office (for Paul, Daniel & Lucas) to work together face to face. And from there we can expand the team more easily.

PV will buy up shares with the new turnover. And new turnover is guaranteed. As anyone that invests will get paid 155% near instantly.
Along with any wise investor; as the price will rise quickly. Shares will easily see at least a 10x increase in price in the coming months. Especially from this action in my opinion. Portfolio development is generally slow going. But this is a high impact move.

Previous swaps were full debt swaps... prior to the business proving itself. And the swap prices were huge... 4x or more the share value prior to swaps. And post swap the price crashed to 35x requirement (2cents vs 70cents+ requirement).... Also, those swaps were done when our liquidity was shot. So we had zero resources post swap to do anything with... This time we're 100% liquid, with $1m or so in cash assets. And only we're only swapping BAP.

But seeing as BAP is our primary products debt... that's as good as emptying out all of MTV. As if PV rockets; then MTV pales by comparison.

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And I don't know why everyone hates the idea of shares so much. Have you not figured it out yet? Shares are the highest performing investment plan we have.

https://www.mytrafficvalue.com/results.html - click on "graphs" .... and look at the share price history. In less than 1 year, shares have increased 135x in value.

PV pays 55% profit. Shares paid 13000%+ profit!
Not including weekly dividends.
LastPlays
Traffic Value: $1,587.41198 Spain
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28/12/2014 00:26
PaidVerts is a secure investment cuz:
If you invest more = You'll get more BAp's = You'll be in a higher group = You'll get higher ad values = You'll get higher rent on month.

But MTV... is not a secure investment... Yes, if you have money, you can invest on FTQ186 or FTQ250, but It's not worth for people who have not a high money to invest and want to get money monthly from viewing ad's.

I dislike to just invest and wait to get benefits like a rich people..
I like to see ad's and get money and the current BAPS for this, and if you're going to destroy PV integrity, and remove all groups and BAPS, and no more ad's to view for money, no more groups, I think you're going to ruin all..

Idc about debts.. I think you can easily cover them on months, and stay doing this job.. Hire more programmers, Delete bugs, and all this is going to be better for all.

Just my opinion.
bigbadmoose
Traffic Value: $520.60691 United States
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28/12/2014 00:27
What the problem is people got tired of the poor way of ads be delivered and stop buying ads they are now buying stock and selling it for BAP to get from one group to another or to stay in their good as it a much better option.


So Jo plan is to take all the BAP turn it into stock and force people to buy ads again that will take months to be delivered. Fix the problem with how long it take ads to be delivered and you will see Paidverts take off again.


Funny thing about this whole deal is if you look at the report card that Jo so love to refer to PV is actual what is keeping the business going. Let PV go down and watch what the revenue for the sites do.
Padoks
Traffic Value: $7,007.68709 Switzerland
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28/12/2014 00:27
@Jo
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Why is it a bad thing?
Just because you earn money via selling shares rather than clicking ads? Is that so important?

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Many People including myself want stable business and is one of the main reasons to have joined MTV/PV. On current mode, even if slow, we know that paid ads will come and that eventually BAPs are being converted into money.

If I have 3-4 millions BAPs listed for sale, who is going to pay that? And when? Even under assumption that everything will work fine, where is the guarantee that I will daily convertetion of Shares into money like converted ads into money?

If you decide to run this anyway, nobody can stop you - but please make a big notice for in advance.
newguy1
Traffic Value: $17,897.90531 United States
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28/12/2014 00:28
How are you going to get "huge" in 2015 if you kill Paidverts, which is what new users are joining?
Angeleyes
Traffic Value: $391.22992 United States
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28/12/2014 00:30
I have to say i am against this swapping idea but thanks anyway smile
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