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tjtan0929
Traffic Value: $203,540.80977 Malaysia
28/12/2014
13:49
so we are going to buy all of PV shares at $0.11 and then waiting for people panic sell to drop down to current price or even lower then PV and new investors could profit huge again from cheap shares
BestGames
Traffic Value: $613.52616 Poland
28/12/2014
13:49
@aadheen2010... and this is a joy for you that people trusted and are in panic now? Have a lot of fun!  
snoggel
Traffic Value: $3,863.6355 Netherlands
28/12/2014
13:51
share price is dropping down i love buy buy buy
aadheen2010
Traffic Value: $1,574.99202 Pakistan
28/12/2014
13:54
@BestGames........................I think u didnt read my first post...................I am against it .......................... Its just frustration that i am taking out......................... And one more thing what i can do about it its their money they want loss let them be.........................
Wjesiu
Traffic Value: $20,936.72553 Poland
28/12/2014
15:23
I don't understand why only Mike should get the special treatment, and not everyone, who in last weeks/days sold shares or deposited to get into higher BAP group.
plutonian
Traffic Value: $12,357.633 Singapore
28/12/2014
15:29
Because Mike thinks he have divine rights to get special treatment. Otherwise you will have to join Digadz if you are not happy
TheDarkness
Traffic Value: $5,278.37238 Germany
28/12/2014
15:30
I dont think there should be any special treatment. It creates that feeling of beeing worthless as a smaller investor.Btw. with the market price dropping i think we will get some really low prices in like 1 week.
nursemorph
Traffic Value: $1,491.12314 United Kingdom
28/12/2014
15:32
Having read through everything again, I think I do now understand it. There are a couple of things that I find interesting though:1) Jo has said that it is an option he is considering if PV fails to grow in the New Year....and, judging by the responses in here generally, that is pretty much guaranteed now as people will stop buying ad packs etc to increase their BAP. So, it appears to be a case of a "self-fulfilling prophecy"! 2) It is interesting to note (and I realise this conversation may have been done to death in the pages I haven't read, so I apologise) that only 1 user is talked about in terms of being compensated in some way for their wrong decision at the wrong time....what about all the others who sold shares for BAP to increase their group and will take a hit? To a lot of people it will read that only one investor on the site is important and everybody else is unimportant and can leave if they don't like the favouritism...I accept that the one person has put a lot of money in but that doesn't negate the sentiment 3) Personally, I was planning to be here for some time and had started buying shares just before Christmas so I tend to take the long-term view on things. Having said that, given we can now see that there is a 99% chance this will happen (unless people still carry on buying ad packs which I doubt) given point number 1, then I will be saving what little money I earn elsewhere so I can use it when the swap has happened....I am likely to still continue my previous use of my earnings (namely shares and 186 plan) but will halt my PV investment to see what happens...I realise this is precisely the reason the swap will happen but I see little point in investing in PV with this much uncertainty over the swap. Once it does occur, then I will start investing again. I realise it is still possible the swap won't occur but, given the reaction to it and guessing what a significant portion of users will do, I don't see any other option. I just hope that it doesn't do too much damage in terms or reputation
milion
Traffic Value: $1,903.73424 Poland
28/12/2014
15:34
MikeMazzone took the same risk as we all do. No special treatment!
plutonian
Traffic Value: $12,357.633 Singapore
28/12/2014
15:37
@nursemorph I think it is more or less confirmed in Jo's guide to BAP SWAP post
DAngel1991
Traffic Value: $402.25802 Macedonia
28/12/2014
15:39
@yakira26Buy shares with bap in portions of 999 and sell them for cash. Do that repeatedly until you have just enough BAP left to own less than 1000 shares after the swap. Then lock yourself at home, throw your computer and never, ever come out of your home. The air is too polluted from the breathing of people from a different religion.
rattenplan
Traffic Value: $1,085.59156 Germany
28/12/2014
16:16
@Jo: Sorry, but you give a Fuck for the opinion of the users. And you did lie, as you said: "it's just an idea"! A few hours later it was a Fact in your mind, but most of the users in the beginning of this discussion were against it, i think. Maybe it will be good. It's not the matter for me. But you ignored the willing of many people. That isn't crowdbased, it's dictatorship - my opinion! I think your way is a very ignorant way to do things, at the moment. Please think of it! You ignore the needs of little earners, but you are thinking about "what is with Mike". Sorry, ,but this shows me: You give a Fuck for all the little earners here. I stopped advertising Referrals yet. Everything else would make me a liar! I'm not sure, what will happen the next month(s), so I cannot make a recommendation to anyone. There is no possibility for people, to get their money back at the moment. If it will be good (and i see it's possible), people will make profit again, if they wait. If not, people get fucked, and you are the fucker! I hope, you will think about it in a very honest and trustworthy way, otherwise you will kill a very nice project, i think! It's not possible for me to say, that I have trust in you, at this point. I really believe, that it can be good, but the way you are going to do it is a very worse way i think.
moquines10
Traffic Value: $444.26533 Spain
28/12/2014
16:19
There is another option that has not been evaluated and possibly leave us all users, more or less satisfied. Jo is talking about changing all BAPS by actions, and I, for example, I am totally against. And I'm in group 6 now !! I do not even want to imagine what they think a person who is in the group 10 or higher, with a large number of BAPs, and now would be with many actions and 0 BAPS.The option that I propose is to change half the BAPS in shares, and the other left as they are. That way, each user would drop a level (of 6-5 in my case), but would not stay in group 0 (no BAPS) People do not have to re-invest as continue to receive daily announcements and debt also would lower considerably, making daily announcements would also be higher than today.
Axiantor
Traffic Value: $14,813.95087 Portugal
28/12/2014
16:29
+1 JoI havent saw anybody talking about PV's debt of $3,800,000. This means you are anly concerned with your effort until now, your strategie and your gainings. But what are those without PV? Do you think PV will last with this kind of debt? We need to swap this debt before it's to late and we have to swap also the Fast track. If we continue like this it is a matter of time until Jo starts to issuing very low ad issues because PV cont sell its shares to turn the debt around. So if you are concerned about your money believe in this BAP swap. Star from scratch until your listed shares are sold at 155% ROI or even more depending on your listing. Then you recourver your BAP but this time in a more secure, debt free program. This new beguining of PV will be even better: - A lot of users - No milestones to create debt - Poker on the way for debt clearing wich will support even more PV - A lot of gains - Strong PV with less need for another BAP swap and more easy to do it as more users will be there to absorb it. And for all those users who listen to the story tellers just remember that the bad sayings about Jo are just influencing the moods on the shares market because if you check the shares movements they're talk changes after they sold they're BAP. Dont buy this small talk. You are cleaver than this.  And concerning Jo's reference about Mike of course he is a different user as he was the only one who tooks actions to be on the topest +500M BAP group as all his work will be undone with this BAP swap. Stay chill!
dd0ctor
Traffic Value: $1,947.98904 Italy
28/12/2014
16:34
I've read almost all posts...and I totally agree with swap!BUT... I also think that we should avoid panic instead of just dealing with it. Recently we didn't spent a single week without troubles of any kind..like server maintenance, lags, errors and whatever. A radical change, now that there are so many things still to fix, could seems like a sign of instability...even if it's an improvement. Someone will leave, someone will claim, someone will remain here to cry and throw false accusations. Maybe you'll call them stupid...but no-one is bound to take your word...your extimations are right...but you should care about how it will seems. That's "stupidity" is just precautionary, 'cause there's a lot of scam out there. I think it's normal... I know that this site and his team are strong enough to beat them all... but I think it's better, at least, to try to turn them on our side instead to fight from the beginning or saying that PV will go on without them. Honestly, I'm much worried for my hard-earned Referrals than for my investments. I would like to see a personal message that I could set in my public profile and appears to all my ref's home page..You could show guides/announcements on the main page..so everybody could know what's happening even if they don't read forum. Even an internal message system might works better than email...This could allow members to talk with their upliner and ask "Hey dude, WTH is happening here??" before to try/cry on forum (that's still a "bit" messy) or with support system. We should see downline like our mini-team...not our working monkeys... I'm getting away from the point ... The point is...there's still a lot of people who don't know what MTV really is and just focus on accumulate BAP, click Ads and re-accumulate bap and so on... If you swap now you lose them..upliners lose them..and PV confirms itself like an unstable site that no-one will reccomend anymore. We need more communications and more stability...AND THEN we could talk about this improvement. What I think is: Swap is a must do...But you should choose better WHEN to do it and HOW. P.S. After this swap, instead of rewarding first 100 users, you should try to study a light form for milestone rewards. This way, any user could be rewarded for the work he did from the start...and/or work harder to be rewarded in the future!
dd0ctor
Traffic Value: $1,947.98904 Italy
28/12/2014
16:44
@AxiantorIf you can see my re-post..I agree with swap as I see it like an improvement. But there was a lot of things to fix and to do before a decision like this. I'm against the swap NOW..as many other users! That doesn't mean that we are stupid or less clever than you or Jo. Jo has a brilliant mind, but he often underrate how some decision (even if legit) could be heavy on his reputation and how this could affect the site.
BestGames
Traffic Value: $613.52616 Poland
28/12/2014
16:47
Panic is on its way $0.0297 for one share.  
ctynn
Traffic Value: $232.85087 Romania
28/12/2014
16:58
i believe this is the problem: support ticket: #42376Suppo Support Ticket: #42376 rt Ticket: #42376 isn't @JO?
krasko
Traffic Value: $557.48073 Bulgaria
28/12/2014
17:01
When all of us will have zero BAP who will buy our shares and sell us BAP`s ? And will be price more than 2-5 BAP`s for share ?
calne
Traffic Value: $975.91894 Canada
28/12/2014
17:06
why must we do a full Bap swap? a half swap would make a little more sense considering people will still have half their bap left thus people will still be able to get ads having some incomem shares will be able to be sold quicker
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