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try8
Traffic Value: $4,008.85137 Romania
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17/07/2015 17:40
@druth8x


Intraday trading is ONLY speculation (gambling).
Those who trade intraday are thinking only to themselves not also to the good of the company (they are speculators, they don't care about the company).


Mr. Marc de Koning asked for something for the good of the company (also for a temporary measure until the company launches new and big products).


So, it is wise to not discuss selfish strategies, but strategies for the general good of the company (now what it counts is the relaunch of the company not the wellness of the individual trader, because if the company prospers then the individual prospers too, think healthy on long term).


(I am a 7 years experienced Forex trader and I only trade by using my original arbitrage strategy not other speculative and gambling strategies, namely buy low-sell high and vice-versa).
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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17/07/2015 17:40
What about not being able to do the opposite action while you have any bids in place?

Meaning, you can't put a sell roadblock up and then buy up shares under it.


I know for those that can, it allows them to catch a price movement b4 it gets away from them.

But many just put them up on both sides and then lock the market and are constantly in profit.
boyakasha
Traffic Value: $511.70205 United Kingdom
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17/07/2015 17:43
In my back office under refer friends tab you just have a selection of banners to choose from I would be making that a lot better include facebook , twitter integration and splash pages , email shots.

The more ways to promote the better.
Virginiadick
Traffic Value: $22.1488 United States
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17/07/2015 17:48
Okay so we all start buying up shares to $0.1, and then what? 
thiagopompeu
Traffic Value: $50,903.64953 Brazil
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17/07/2015 17:49
If want share prices high, put a bid with all PV and JO money and MTV control the price! Easy ... This its a FREE MARKET, any solution will lock the market and can sounds as SCAM (solution to prevent big cashouts)
abdalaom
Traffic Value: $936.3681 Egypt
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17/07/2015 17:51
@thiagopompeu
agree
donsoulz
Traffic Value: $7,212.45963 Malaysia
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17/07/2015 17:54
@thiagopompeu...manipulating share price...that sound scam to me....share is valuable....share need to grow or fall depending on progression of business...not by someone that control the market or bigger shareholder...Free market also need some rules...
Stephanos9
Traffic Value: $1,685.19331 Cyprus
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17/07/2015 17:56
It's a free market enslaved by two members... "FREE MARKET" they say.
ccarlosdulce
Traffic Value: $14,551.54628 Belgium
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17/07/2015 17:56
The Price Could Raise if there is really good results .. and Only Members can decide when buy and when sell ... No one is manipulating here .. if a guy puts a block to sell, even if it's a fake one, if people think that the share deserve that price then they will eat that block, if not, the price will drop... Where is manipulation here ??? And yes, there is small, normal and big Fishes here .... People who risked thousands of $ can't have the same advantages than a free user it's like the 50.000.000 major shareholder ... 

A free market is where shareholders decides when Buy and when sell the amount they want when they want... This is the law of supply and demand.

THANK YOU
abdalaom
Traffic Value: $936.3681 Egypt
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17/07/2015 17:59
@ccarlosdulce
agree
Virginiadick
Traffic Value: $22.1488 United States
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17/07/2015 18:06
@ccarlosdulce  @thiagopompeu  100% agree. Its a free market, if you want share price to rise. make  deposit and start buying as much as you want. 
networker5
Traffic Value: $837.89177 Spain
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17/07/2015 18:06
druth8x

completely agree with you 


and another very important issue $ -5,000 in gaming revenues is it normal for so many lost so consistently?
Blackshadow7
Traffic Value: $2,799.27241 India
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17/07/2015 18:11
Totally agree with ccarlosdulce


Share market is a free place , People can place big bids but in the end its the people decision to undercut the price , nothing manipulation here . If people don't want to sell then they simply can eat the roadblock shares . Well its people's own decision whatever loss or profit they make in short term share trades , i guess no one can manipulate other people's thoughts , fear and happiness grin , Fear = massive sell  share price down , Happiness = Massive buy share price up grin
EpicKris
Traffic Value: $920.8297 Poland
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17/07/2015 18:14
Marc, just buy the shares with Jo's/dev fund money whenever there's a roadblock or big time manipulation going on (ofc that would require one person to constantly monitor the share market).

Big shareholders would cry like babies, many people would be happy with the price increase etc. The thing is, you can't please anyone but at least buying shares like that would be fair and square and in the spirit of so called 'free market'.

Anyway, this is a ridiculous idea, but as they say 'fight fire with fire' so in this case fight money, with more money!

Or, as mio suggested, fee that is taken right at the time of 'fake' selling/bidding. Really simple, yet it would make people think if they really want to sell. This might be better than the time lockdown, since the market wouldn't be cluttered that much. Very big roadblock is still a very big roadblock for those X hours or so and instead of encouraging people to buy shares it could just stall the market. 


Edit. Oh I see thiago and carlos don't really like this 'free market' idea after all. angel
peanutdude
Traffic Value: $360.6696 Philippines
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17/07/2015 18:17
The point is that in this FREE MARKET you cannot put limitations on buying and selling of individual
shares.

But you can place limitations on other things which will slow some of the problems.

My 2 things I wrote on page 4 would do that without putting limitations on individuals rights
to buy and sell as much as they want.

Charge 10% on all cash sells (buy and sell all you want)

Stop trading until the next day if price moves more than 10% up or down at the price at server reset.

Both of these are both beneficial to the company (more revenues, more stable market)
and do not limit individuals from doing whatever they want.
santhoshi
Traffic Value: $2,194.18215 India
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17/07/2015 18:19
yes marc go with that 24hour idea I myself gone crazycwy after seeing brainy gone crazy like it is a viral fever spread to all you are the first victim and then jo and brainy and I am the last one
Andrefatf
Traffic Value: $64.34448 Portugal
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17/07/2015 18:21
The fair way for the logical of the market will be "imitated" the normal stock market... the share price should not be shosed my the users.... the share price should be an automatic value according to the share dividends and the whole debits and credit this business is currently having all the time... an exemple... someone invest 20$ right now... so the share price will grow... someone withdraw 30$ so the share price should drop..... and the share price would be manipulated by that... not by the user XD the users should be able to put 2 diferent tipes of orders: the pendent orders and the instant orders..... the instant orders is selling or buying with the currently price... and the pendent order is to buy/sell a share to a price that users shouse and when the share reach that price would be automaticly seeled/boughted ....

Like in the real market !!!

it should exist a chart like in the stock markets where users would be aple to paint lines and all that..... and to put stop loss and take profit defenitions...
Andrefatf
Traffic Value: $64.34448 Portugal
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17/07/2015 18:21
the share price should not be manipulated by us..... it should be manipulated by the liquidity of this business!
Tony125s
Traffic Value: $2,081.0882 United States
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17/07/2015 18:22
Is there an estimate for when Roulette will be back online? 
networker5
Traffic Value: $837.89177 Spain
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17/07/2015 18:24
this would be resolved very easily, instead of having a completely linear market where each vendor buyer has to wait in line for the same price, why not rotate this or that is parallel and non-linear?

example:

User Place Bids Bid to Buy
Buyer Price Shares Wanted
Accept $ 30.893 0.0121 aqeel92
Mingyee $ 10,000 0.0121 -
lolita1994 $ 9 0.0121 -
druth8x $ 6 0.0121 -
degodoy $ 10 0.0121 -
Rorschi $ 10 0.0121 -

this is how is the market right now, and anyone who is under the user aqeel92 will have no choice but to wait in line for their turn why ?, has no sense if everyone is willing to buy at the same price I think everyone would have to have the same opportunities to buy or sell at a time.


one way to do it in a more agile way more ethical and more efficient would be in parallel or rotary

ONE BY ONE

when aqueel92 traded one single action, the turn is now mingyee and traded as a single action is lolita1994 turn traded as a single action is druth8x turn horn etc all with the price of 0.0121 traded an 1 action is then repeated again starting again from the beginning, thus the barriers for small traders have the same opportunities exactly the same for all break.


I understand that a big investor has more power in the market and that is normal since invested more, but it has that power to play with a greater number of shares in purchase sales and deveria not have that advantage and more the advantage in the market deve be fair and the only incentive is to win or lose each strategy, intelligence, and not the large or small number of shares.



with this little change or some other similar, it would be solved once and for all waits for intraday trader and the same opportunities to gain or loss for all with the same rules in the game for everyone.
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