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missi
Traffic Value: $12,691.63746 Australia
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18/07/2015 07:38
@Michael I like the idea in general, but because my strengths do not lay in coming up with good at ideas, never been the brightest crayon in the box ... I just threw out the concern I had in it thats all. 
MichaelKline
Traffic Value: $960.97608 United States
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18/07/2015 07:53
One method I would like to see is the ability to select two posts and merge them as a we to handle multiple posts about a singular subject. That way I wouldn't have to consider if I have to delete one or the other.
jordy186
Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands
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18/07/2015 08:10
i just think the 0.25% fee should be charged with every listing. If you delete the listing you wont get the 0.25% fee back.

Also i have read someone that charging 0.25% when listing and again 0.25% if you delete it.

Overall i think the fee of 0.25% is a little to low as well because it shouldnt be profitable to sell for 0.0001 higher.
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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18/07/2015 08:28
The fee is nothing for big shareholders. They can get away with manipulating the price to cover any such fees.

I do think we shouldn't allow constant buy/sells at such a small difference.

1 or 2 times and hour, b/c the market changes and you need to sell/buy back, makes sense, but actually buying/selling just as a profit venture is manipulation.

If movement was based on solid news/release, that's one thing. But, when it's out of thin air/just b/c someone(s) want to make some profit, that is where the manipulation comes in.

Also, this lock idea is not good when news/release happens.

Say at 12:00 server time someone puts a bid to sell. Then, at 17:00 server time Marc announces that PayPal is back. Now, what? The seller had no idea this was on the horizon, and even if they were ready to pull their bid, they can't. They end up in a big loss, or do their best to work with others to drive the price back down so they can recover.

Maybe a clause in the 24hr rule that allows for certain news/releases to remove locks? I'm not sure how we can classify properly enough.
bojant
Traffic Value: $132.46681 Macedonia
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18/07/2015 08:33
Michael I had a similar idea, but mine doesn't include the reputation thing. I was thinking the idea from druth8x and a voting system on the posts you make. Example: some newbie asks something in the newbie forum and one of the more experienced member answers. Then depending on how helpful the answer is they rate it and that is counted in the reputation "meter" or something. And then Michael's idea comes along.

IMO this will come as a very interesting feature and a bit motivational to help out the "little guys" to get some reputation. I think it's worth considering.
sujitpadhy
Traffic Value: $53.4809 India
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18/07/2015 08:43
@MarcdeKoning,
        



             i think increase the daily ad issue+++++++++++++++
              then automatically share price is increase or people interest invest money.that my idea......
mlmindia
Traffic Value: $804.38371 India
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18/07/2015 08:52
Put market cap on daily trading.. 
it will surely control manipulation
Rentier
Traffic Value: $2,677.74441 Russian Federation
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18/07/2015 09:08
1. Provide opportunity choose market:

- an experimental, with the new conditions,

- the old market, without changes.




2. maybe...

Share market 1: bid > 1 000 000 shares

Share market 2: bid 100 000 - 999 000 shares

Share market 3: bid 10 000 - 99 000 shares

Share market 4: bid 1000 - 9999 shares

Share market 5: bid 100 - 999 shares

Share market 6: bid 10 - 99 shares

Share market 7: bid 1 - 9 shares

Or buyer (as version) can make a purchase in any market, and to sell shares only on the market respectively range quantity shares.

The maximum number of bids is limited from 1 to 10.

And so, probably, in different markets can be various stock prices.




3. Some thoughts:

- during 24 hours one can do only one (two, three...?) bid buy and one (two, three...?) bid sell.

- if bid buy / sell did not take place for some time, bid automatically removed and next bid one can do after 24 hours.
Blackshadow7
Traffic Value: $2,799.27241 India
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18/07/2015 09:25
Only increasing the Fee fair amount is the way to control fake bids i think . Seller removes his bid and has to pay some free for the bid he placed .. Marc i guess it really better solution than 24 hour block of removal . This way MTV will earn good amount revenue also i suppose ... if the big bids are placed and then removed and some amount fee comes out from that then it could help some % revenue increase to company also and besides sellers will place bid when they sure about the market smile
missi
Traffic Value: $12,691.63746 Australia
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18/07/2015 09:25
The fast track queue needs to somehow be improved in a way that it becomes attractive to invest in again. Im not complaining since I have profited from my own investments there but many who bought in pre - swap at the higher fees are currently at a loss and stuck waiting for quite a long time. Even the investment market place isnt as attractive to buy from as it once was due to people preferring the quick gains they can make with shares if they play it right. 

Since fast track queue is no longer so attractive to invest in, as the long term earnings are becoming longer and longer to wait for therefor more are now focussing all attention to shares and there is less to pay out in dividends. 

Less dividends - the more people try to make their money off the buying/selling of shares since there havent been enough fast track investments to pay out dividends for weeks, and when we finally do get one it wont be worth writing home about so to speak, not a personal care of mine but just a general thought. 

If the fast track was more attractive, more would invest in it and shares dividends would raise. The more dividends paid to shareholders raise the less people will want to just sell for a smaller instant profit and there may be more people more willing to hold than undercut so they feel like they have at least not made a total loss. 

You can put all the controls you like on the share market place but it would be better if we could develop something that naturally made people WANT to hold onto the shares for values sake rather than giving people the feeling we're out to control them, especially as many ideas are still in the big shareholders favour that hurt the smaller guys

but then I could be totally wrong in my thinking too *shrugs*
roidz
Traffic Value: $24,334.30701 Italy
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18/07/2015 09:33
marc etc. @

you should think at revenues, not limitation.
you should remember that we swapped at 0.30!  if its not clear, THIRTY CENTS, THIRTY!!
amingamil
Traffic Value: $23.22987 Egypt
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18/07/2015 09:41
[MOD EDIT : there is currently a bit of a delay in support tickets. Posting in the forum will not get it attended to any quicker. It is frustrating but unfortunately we have to wait until it is attended to - Missi]
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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18/07/2015 09:42
I've read the original fast track plans had daily payments to all.
Not exactly sure how that worked, esp when there are so many in the queue so even 1c each would be hard to achieve.

If we set up allocation of Revenues as we do BAP Groups, and adjust %'s based on total debt ahead, we can still give enough focus to the people who are currently waiting the longest, but enough % to the newest investors so they know they get something while they wait for the ROI. All or nothing, is kinda an outdated model, IMHO.
Blakpope
Traffic Value: $470.67925 Macedonia
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18/07/2015 10:14
@druth8x
That doesn't seem to be a solution at all. It will only bring the late buyers and the early buyers to meet halfway, reducing the ETA slightly for those who bought late, and delaying the payment for those who bought early. With no better revenues, i don't really see a solution for the FTQ. Even if paralel daily payments may have worked sometime in the past, i doubt that the FTQ has been clogged up like this ever before.

EDIT: Maybe the only way is to swap the pending plans for shares, at a 1:1 rate. It seems hardly possible tho, on a first thought.
snoggel
Traffic Value: $3,863.6355 Netherlands
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18/07/2015 10:22
i think you all think to much yust buy buy buy and you kill the undercutters rules will
kill the sharemarket yust buy and sell over a half year
Blakpope
Traffic Value: $470.67925 Macedonia
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18/07/2015 10:28
@snoggel
Sure thing, dude. Transfer me 1000$ and i will buy shares the very same moment. If that's a problem, you can send me half the ammount, i'm fine with that too. Oh well, even 100$ would be alright. I'll manage with those.


-.-

... So sick of these buy buy buy buy comments.
snoggel
Traffic Value: $3,863.6355 Netherlands
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18/07/2015 10:41
blackpope you maby sick of it  but i think it is the only way if you put rules on the market
you wil kill the free market and than i will be sick
expertx
Traffic Value: $753.36959 Croatia (LOCAL Name: Hrvatska)
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18/07/2015 10:44
My suggestion:

Allow the market as it is now, only change the fees, the more shares you sell the fee is higher.

Forgive me for my bad English
Blakpope
Traffic Value: $470.67925 Macedonia
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18/07/2015 12:33
snoggel
I agree 100% with that part. I just wrote about it in the daily news. Higher fee, nothing else is needed.
Diego902
Traffic Value: $10.07425 Brazil
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18/07/2015 17:43
MarcdeKoning - Administrator  wrote:

Diego, you got a very big mouth for a guy that has a 7$ traffic value.


Man more reason to keep laughing.
You guys are so attached to that, believing you invented the well. Traffic value is an ilusion, besides as we say here "tamanho nao e documento" which literaly translated could be something like this " quantity does not mean quality". Adding to that the British have shorted  to " small is is beautiful"

Most important of all that is that I am a shareholder as well sharemarket player.
Having said the share market turned to a playground as you said, it  was a lack of respect for the shareholders who play the share market.... me included

So !
Being at the position as you are now you must face the music for your words.
Grown ups are very wise when adress the crowd.
Learn the lesson and for sure you'll be going far.
Mean time you have  a lot to prove, so put your hands in the mud and get the jobe done.
Too many investors are queing to put money in.wink
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