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Ajlana
Traffic Value: $12,585.17796 Poland
17/07/2015
16:10
I agree with @erkaelle - every bid and our sell which we placed on market should stay there for 24h and then we can cancel it. then everyone think twice before placed smth there.. its really hard to find some solution because it is free market… but this one for me is the most fair and for sure it will help.
pabloski28
Traffic Value: $1,696.27057 Spain
17/07/2015
16:10
Stephanos, bap market does not create any new campaign, it just move baps from an user to other one
casio8978 - Forum moderator
Traffic Value: $14,531.83197 Slovenia
17/07/2015
16:12
easiest solution would be by some time restrictions. as erkaelle said, user cannot cancel bid for some period of time.other option: let say user has 500k shares. he set roadblock with 250k and then he removes it. now he is not allowed to use that 250k shares for let say 24h, or 48h.. but this is not a good solution for users with bigger shareholders. possible solution is to have maximum amount of shares that can be on market from single user. maybe 500k shares. if someone want to cash out, he can put all shares on sale, but this sale can not be canceled.
killa-007
Traffic Value: $11,038.09657 Slovenia
17/07/2015
16:12
price just wont go down man, if all is working correctly you get some money from paidverts, from dividends, maybe ftq, and that money get reinvested into shares, or at least part of it.For example you put 66% back in buying ads 20% for cashout and 14% you use for shares, but for that you need a bit bigger ads, which all comes back to products, revenues, etc. If something is doing well price will rise if not then it wont.
dotuan
Traffic Value: $20,222.57819 Viet Nam
17/07/2015
16:14
Coin Flip Game fawezya999 796 $77,592.00 $82,109.60 $4,517.60Are you excited?
jmfjmf
Traffic Value: $176.69082 Argentina
17/07/2015
16:15
Volume limit per time per user that avoid the roadblocks
freak300
Traffic Value: $56,564.16117 Germany
17/07/2015
16:16
I think one way of making manipulation less attractive would be by limiting the option to cancel the sales bid for big sells. For example: Someone sells 1000000 shares. If he wants to cancel the sales bid atleast 10% of the shares have to be sold meaning he could only cancell the sales offer when 100000 were sold.
lg1500
Traffic Value: $3,227.40257 Poland
17/07/2015
16:16
MarcdeKoningfee 5 % for share seller and this 5 % fee going in cash to share buyer You can make many diffrent benefits for big shareholders. 1.000+ shares everyday free ticket for bronze lottery 5.000+ shares everyday free ticket for bronze,silver lottery 10.000+ shares everyday free ticket for bronze,silver,gold lottery 30.000+ shares everyday free ticket for bronze,silver,gold,platinum lottery 100.000+ shares everyday free ticket for bronze,silver,gold,platinum,vip1 lottery 1.000.000+ shares everyday free ticket for bronze,silver,gold,platinum,vip1,vip2 lottery everyday prizes from share fee or part of revenues 1,5,10,30,100,1000 usd
page83
Traffic Value: $422.66073 France
17/07/2015
16:17
For market share you can make a tax and set a range for the tax youn can put variable tax -if you hold the share during more than 1 week 1% tax -if you hold the share during 6 day 2% etc... And you can put range if the share closes the day before at 0.015 then you cant put minimum price for the day at 0.01125 and maximum price at 0.01875
lokebmk
Traffic Value: $3,170.45051 India
17/07/2015
16:22
If all limits are removed ( FTQ, Ad purchases and etc ) as like in 2013 , then the share market rise crazy , but we must place limits for shares because every one easily manipulate share market .....
pabloski28
Traffic Value: $1,696.27057 Spain
17/07/2015
16:29
Just to sum up, this is a declaration from Marc, saying he just want to make share price rise up. I like this news, market is manipulated right now
Virginiadick
Traffic Value: $22.1488 United States
17/07/2015
16:30
@pabloski28Whats is Share Market manipulation??? is buying and selling a manipulation...Putting restrictions on share market will not go down well with lots of users especially day traders @Marc whatever decision u come up with, i hope they will be a voting system where users will be allowed to vote for or against. If we want share price to rise, then lets buy and dont sell....
pabloski28
Traffic Value: $1,696.27057 Spain
17/07/2015
16:31
A manipulation is when Thiago put 2000000 shares at sell when obviously he does not want to sell, just make price go down to buy lower
Vixthra
Traffic Value: $2,179.00664 Slovenia
17/07/2015
16:35
Limited usability of newly aquired shares or fundsThe "problem" we're facing is more result of tossing around the same shares/money over and over again than anything else, in my opinion. The idea is as follows: After successfully interacting with the market (ie. completing a sell or buy) your newly aquired assets (money or shares) cannot immediately interact with the market again. There are hardly any limitations in this, but it would prevent manipulating the sharemarket by over-rotating shares and funds. To ilustrate... User #1: Has 50$. Decides to buy 5000 shares. The transaction got completed and he now has 5000 shares + those shares are now "frozen" for a certain period of time. He CANNOT SELL the same shares until a period of XX hours/days passed. User #2: Has 5000 shares. Decides to sell them for 50$. He sold them and now has 50$. He CAN WITHDRAW the money, but he CANNOT BUY any shares again because he is prevented from using the same 50$ in the share market again, for a certain period of time. After the same as above period of XX hours/days passed, he can use his money to buy shares again.
MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
17/07/2015
16:35
The 24 hour lock would make people think about their sales and only put them up if they're ready for them to be sold.. That one would not add any fees, give people unfair advantages etc..(If you put a bid or a sale you can't take it down for 24 hours) We might go with that one.
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
17/07/2015
16:39
I've always liked the idea of no fake buy or sell bids.I just want some considerations made for typos/ nope price moved yet again. Any suggestions? (Thought of one. You can pull a bid and type an "excuse". In the meantime, it's pulled, but pending moderation. Get 3 "mods", to approve and it's removed. If not approved. Then it has to stay.) A small fee means nothing to those who can create roadblocks, even when their fake bid is filled, they can usually still take advantage. But those of us just trying to get in while it's moving, can make a mistake or need to relist. _______ Why, in the first place, do we allow buys and sells from the same user on the same quarter of a day? _______ Is there any thoughts regards to leaving Bulk Buy/Sell alone, but not being allowed to create Roadblocks? Or at least, maybe any bid over 10K (and we will check like the FBI does now to 5K), is not filled in X amount of time, it's automatically removed?
rtrplay
Traffic Value: $65,453.30658 Sweden
17/07/2015
16:40
if you think this market is bad have you ever seen a real sharemarket probably not as you have this discussions...even if they lock sometimes the shares from trading they manipulate next day, and share price is not the important here right now!!!
dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
17/07/2015
16:43
You might not even need to go with 24 hours. You could start with a smaller time frame and see if that changes thingsyou could have a two tiered fee system like the actual stock market has. If you hold shares for more than a certain time frame then you pay the current fee. If you hold the shares less than one day (or maybe longer but I don't think it would need to be longer than a day) then fee is 1% - 5% and have the system measure it from last shares in first out so if you bought 1000 shares ten minutes ago and you are selling 10,000 shares now you get taxed the daytrading fee on the first 1000 you sell
upfront
Traffic Value: $415.25841 Cyprus
17/07/2015
16:44
@marc This can also have a bad impact in the marketplace bcs if someone wants to sell and sees that the prices are balancing between 5-6 points every day he/she will put a sell bid way bellow those figures in order to be 100% sure that they will be sold thus putting a daily limit (%) on the shares someone can trade without additional fees can do the same job and have small to non impact
peanutdude
Traffic Value: $360.6696 Philippines
17/07/2015
16:45
raise the cash selling fee to 10%, all this crap started when Jo lowered the fee to nothing (.25% from 3%), so it is not even .00001 to sell your shares, this will not stop the BS, but it will stop some of it, and it would also, generate more revenue for the site. You should also put a daily range limit: Example: Market opens at .0125 then the market can only move up or down xx (maybe 10% up or down) percent before trading is halted until the next day. |