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Can't the lock only be in affect if you sell more than a certain amount of shares , smaller traders could then keep good activity in the market. Don't want to see it become stalled with lots of locked bids.

dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada

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17/07/2015 16:50

the problem also started after the split which created excess volume. I'm not sure a reverse split would look good on the company but the problem might not correct until long term holders absorb all the excess volume

gaven
Traffic Value: $632.85421 Venezuela

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17/07/2015 16:50

@MarcdeKoning
As I once stated in https://www.mytrafficvalue.com/forum/brainstorm/jo_threats_solution_my_thoughts.html

A method for preventing Market manipulation could be to simple set an agreement with every mayority share holder, for example, let's set a rule:
If you own more that 10,000,000 shares your won't be able to sell more that a 5% of your shares in a period of time.
Of course rules will change acourding to the amount of shares.

This is the same method that ripple labs applied with his current founder Jed McCaleb (reference: http://www.coindesk.com/jed-mccaleb-ripple-labs-strike-deal-avert-9-billion-xrp-sell/).

xxROBxx
Traffic Value: $2,135.96633 Netherlands

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17/07/2015 16:52

It looks now not the big share holders can manipulate the share price but MTV go do it.

But there would always be 'tricks' to manipulate.

I think we can only let the price rise if people want that because of they must buy it.

Yes big share holders have much profit but they pay for the shares and everywhere where big share holders are is manipulation and no one can stop it.

try8
Traffic Value: $4,008.85137 Romania

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17/07/2015 16:54

Regarding the shares market:

Here it is an idea (it is not mine, I have seen it in another business on internet, but there was backed by a gold reserve, anyway, it might work here):

The idea is quite simple.

1. The users are not permitted to sell below the actual value (they can only sell at the current price, not below).
2. According to above point 1, the price of the share will only rise, little by little.
3. When the price reaches $1 you make a split (by a factor of 10), and start over.
4. You may consider maximum 3-4 splits.

In the meantime the products are developing and in the future you will not be forced to make splits.

migflores
Traffic Value: $270.54775 Venezuela

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17/07/2015 16:56

Lock for 24hr but, allow us to rice only the price of own bid, and lower only my own sales prices.

grodt
Traffic Value: $1,053.10686 Serbia

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17/07/2015 16:58

Marc, take in consideration that some big players manipulate just by showing themselves on the market. They put up a bid for 1 million shares and they influence the market even though they didn't sell a single share.

Best way to control is to forbid selling huge numbers.

dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada

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17/07/2015 16:59

You could also base it on trading volume. So in other words someone cannot trade more than 10%(20%, 5% 1%) of the daily volume for the sake of liquidity. That way the market has the ability to properly digest the amount of shares you are willing to sell. You could also have an emergency exemption whereby if a person needs to sell a large block of shares for personal reasons they can request an exemption from the admin or maybe MTV can buy those shares, put them in escrow and slowly feed them into the market to recoup their expense.

We could also create a separate 'block trade' market where the big boys can play and if you want to trade above a certain amount of shares(by daily volume percentage or a fixed block of, say, 50K or higher) the trade is automatically bumped up to the block trade market. (it would work a lot like the FTQ trade market)

druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States

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17/07/2015 17:01

try8,

So completely limit trading, even based on solid good/bad news, shares are just used as buy and hold until they rise enough that you want some money for other things. Cause you'd never sell, just to rebuy.

That's the jist of your suggestion?

boyakasha
Traffic Value: $511.70205 United Kingdom

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17/07/2015 17:08

Personally I would leave the market alone and agree with dguy above we just need more buyers to absorb the selling and it will rise naturally.

Concentrate on promoting and bringing people into the market.

try8
Traffic Value: $4,008.85137 Romania

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17/07/2015 17:10

@druth8x
No, you can sell anytime but not under the actual price.
For example, if the price reaches $0.081, you cannot sell with $0.080 (you can only sell with $0.081).
In this way the price will only rise (until the split).

subhajit95
Traffic Value: $6,854.66221 India

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17/07/2015 17:12

increasing tax for selling shares can help us, example - if any one sell 1000 shares then 1% tax will applied as well as 3% for 10k or above, 6% for 30k or above, 12% for 70k or above 24% for 150k or above

Also one can't make more than one bid per day

killa-007
Traffic Value: $11,038.09657 Slovenia

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17/07/2015 17:22

hahahahahaha rly? so when he wants to sell 1m shares tax will be more then 100%?

Rentier
Traffic Value: $2,677.74441 Russian Federation

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17/07/2015 17:24

Some thoughts:
- during 24 hours one can do only 1 bid over buy and 1 bid over sell.
- if bid over buy / sell did not take place for some time, bid automatically removed and next bid one can do after 24 hours.

mio2815
Traffic Value: $32,608.39303 Germany

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17/07/2015 17:24

Simple Solution:

Just take the fee the moment the position is opend. If someone cancels his position he would lose the fee.

druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States

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17/07/2015 17:25

@try8,

Exactly.

Guess I didn't make myself clear.
By "trading", I meant "min/hour/week/month". I.E. Only trading to try and either gain more shares or more cash, but still have at least as much cash or shares as you started with. Meaning, you don't sell high/buy low, sell low/buy lower, as those opportunities don't exist anymore. You can't sell shares to buy more/buy the same but pocket the difference.

Buying shares is truly a long term only proposition.
The only way you can gain a % of the site is by investing more.

It completely removes manipulation out.
It also removes quite a few of them from having any/less interest in those shares. Dividends, even when things were good, still was very little even over the course of the year. There is no ROI, save for years. But, I guess it's better than banks. That said, I love 1c shares that could easily be worth $10, when we explode.

Also, a split doesn't change the price.
Mathematically, now shares are about $1.20.

elenaml
Traffic Value: $1,554.92245 Bulgaria

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17/07/2015 17:30

Make validity of the the share orders, example:

max validity -1 day (24h) with automatically closing the share order when the time expires....
...and after few days you will see how the market will go up and down like crazy

Virginiadick
Traffic Value: $22.1488 United States

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17/07/2015 17:37

the value of a company will determine it share price. you have less revenues coming in and yet you expect share price to rise.....We cant reach high share prices out of thin air. FTQ's are taking so much time to mature and we blaming the share market...hmmmmm

Whats the essence of the shareholder marketplace anyway?

donsoulz
Traffic Value: $7,212.45963 Malaysia

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17/07/2015 17:39

the only way to control share manipulation is by increase fee..maybe 3-5%.....and have some limit per share sell/bid..for example someone only can sell/bid his/her sell/bid up to 50k maximum per one sell/bid...and up to 3 listed....like that..we can control..just an example..

olddudesaja
Traffic Value: $3,769.02364 Norway

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17/07/2015 17:40

just now. today revenue (so far) =Total $-1769.76059
-$6,238.97432 Coin Flip Game. Is someone really lucky? Or is there something wrong with the coin flip game?

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