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MarcdeKoning - Administrator Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands 0 like this post 1 people 06/03/2020 21:32 Investing in ponzi´s? rtrplay Traffic Value: $65,453.30658 Sweden 0 like this post 0 people 07/03/2020 00:10 if you look at swedish companies you see there is alternatives that i use in my project, example kameo requries 500 SEK minimum per position, you only need to know a swedish citizen...can earn up to 15%/year and then can compound that and last it's 100% legal https://www.kameo.se/investera-med-hog-avkastning there are multiple international companies inside EU with low deposit requriements, investing in crypto is higher risks everytime the market goes down, should not be used for investment it's a payment system... totoer008 Traffic Value: $1,804.70567 France 2 like this post 0 people 07/03/2020 01:45 Everything can become a ponzi if run incorrectly. Besides it being one is beyond the point. Even you have to agree that investing money in other project to yield growth isn’t a bad idea. Hedge funds do it, investments funds and banks. Don’t tell me they don’t turn a profit. I don’t understand why we couldn’t use the massive amount of people we have to make compound investments. Lots of investments funds and crypto market propose some decent pa returns. It would be a good idea to invest money being used here to make more over time. A conservative 8 percent per year adjusted with inflation doubles over 10 years. That means even if we don’t use pa for growth we would have with 200K, 12K of interests to throw in ad revenues. And that’s only one idea.  I believe the current portfolio should be re-analyzed, useless projects should be closed and we should focus on what we do best, to create an edge over others. MTV/PV has been online for years and we have real products let’s use that to our advantage. You do realize Marc that if I can make 7 percent net of taxes with a standard investments firm (legit one) and 10% with an app like crypto.com and withdraw those profit safe in a year where here I have to click and never see a dime back, like many, not a lot is keeping me here. Right now I don’t see many options for me to earn, it’s a shame because I believe in the project still to this day.  I am fed up with stories, it doesn’t matter at the end, people want results (yes like at school). It’s okay to fail, I also was depressed for two years and my family was comprehensive about it. But after failing twice my third year and not enrolling again my family nicely told me to find a job, because results man. We will never understand what’s it is like behind your job, but we have numbers with which we can evaluate. I am seeing serious people leaving this project and it’s a bad sign. Please Marc focus on business and show us it can grow. pisti87 Traffic Value: $952.82322 Hungary 1 like this post 0 people 07/03/2020 09:49 jordy186: You can convert your money in Payeer to XRP instead, and the withdrawal fee will be very low. Then you can convert your XRP to LTC with Coinbase Pro, it can be cheaper depending on the amount. Depositing via Payeer has much higher fee (4%), so I think it's not worth it to do so. MarcdeKoning - Administrator Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands 1 like this post 0 people 07/03/2020 11:02 Totoer.. If people would actually be interested in a 8-10% a year project, I´d throw a bunch of real-estate related projects on the funding page. The fact of the matter is that it wouldn´t get filled.. Even the PtcShare project, which was based upon a proven concept and offered a much better return only got a few K from the crowd. jordy186 Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands 0 like this post 0 people 07/03/2020 11:07 @marc  And the biggest problem is because our crowd we had in the past is in sleeping mode and isnt coming back to check up on mtv anymore druth8x Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States 2 like this post 0 people 07/03/2020 13:58 If you've got 8-10% returns, I'll help fund that, for diversification purposes, esp if you can minimize the fees. What I have, just checked, is ~6.5% since inception, but 12% past 10 years and even 8-10 past 1/3/5 years. That is slightly better than the Stock Market long Term is, and that's where all my leftover money from my job goes. AKA first 401K invested into VFIAX Vanguard 500 Index Fund Admiral Shares  maxed then VTSAX Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund Admiral Shares  dremis Traffic Value: $23,441.96122 Spain 3 like this post 0 people 07/03/2020 16:16 @Marc you have to take into acount that MTV has deposit and cashout fees so that 8-10% / year for a year for examle equals 0 we would have to keep the money deposited for at least 2 years to make 4-5% and that considering the proyect goes well and that we get payed every time, i dont think it is that simple MarcdeKoning - Administrator Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands 2 like this post 0 people 07/03/2020 18:34 Alright Druth, I´ll write something up tonight that I´ve been working on on a personal level for a while and PERHAPS it might actually turn into something and if not, it will at least make up for a great debate/brainstorm on the forum. But there are a lot of "ifs" and it can only turn into something if the community is actually interested and gives lots of feedback. I could present a/a couple viable options for people to have a solid investment. If people invest with crypto, there won´t have to be any cashout fees either.. But again: Lots of ifs.. But I feel like at least writing up the story and see what the response will be. vicura Traffic Value: $4,969.3683 Spain 0 like this post 0 people 07/03/2020 19:08 @Marc, in fact I would also be interested in something with 10% year return (if it's pretty low risk), my plan was to invest in crowdlending projects such as Mintos that give about that per year but I'm not sure if it will stand with the incoming crisis. I got pretty happy with the PTC project and would had invested way more if I didn't have all my money already in the funding project (invested big money in both trading projects that were launched). Even if it's risky and get's delayed (like now it is with PTC project), I'm already in profit and don't mind waiting some more time to get the total 25-30% profit (don't remember the quantity) Also as dremis stated, lowering the cashout fees for the big fishes would be pretty atractive, maybe if the cashouts aren't done in 1 day but maybe in 1-2 weeks. Could be an option like "1-day cashout = 4-5% fee" like now and another "long term cashout = way lower fees". I don't know if it would be possible, but if you are still into trading, it could be a nice way to make some profits for MTV also, like buying BTC-LTC at a given price and then letting the user cashout when the coins have gone up some 3-4% so the fees are covered. It's pretty painfull seing that I will have to pay 200$ in fees if I want to cashout all the money and would think twice in investing more money that the one I already have in the site if I know the cashout fee will eat a big chunk of the comissions earned (between the bank transfer to buy cryptos to invest + deposit fee + cashout fee + selling crypto to get the money in your bank account...) Maybe you could write a bit about some projects you might have in mind and ask the big investors what they say and how much would they invest and then evaluate if it would be worth it or no. In my case, I don't want to spend a lot of time searching for new things, having to learn about other projects... I want something simple, like you tell me give me X money and in Y time you will have about Z% comission. Otherwise I would had gone for cryptos or other stuff. PS: I thought I was totally leaving but now I got interested again in MTV freak300 Traffic Value: $56,564.16117 Germany 3 like this post 0 people 08/03/2020 07:57 I haven't been around in a long time but have been looking at the forum here and there just to see what is going on and thought I will post my thoughts. I think we can all agree that Marc has been doing an amazing job at keeping this business running and has done everything in his power to try to grow the business. A major issue I see though, is that a lot of us still live with the old expectations we have had towards MTV/PV. Let's be honest: we all joined for the big fast money and we all knew deep down that the returns that were promised back then could only be generated by creating a Ponzi/HYIP type investment scheme that obviously will collapse eventually. I think it is funny how people are always out there looking for these types of 'investments'. It has always been this way and it will always be this way because it is playing on peoples emotions. Everyone wants the big money and is greedy for more. The reason why most people have left this site is therefore not because technically Marc doesn't know how to build a business but because people are not getting told the promises that their greedy needs will be fulfilled anymore.  We have come back to reality and in reality you have to work for successes/money. In reality, running a business isn't easy. I know it myself because I have done it. Most businesses fail within the first year/ two years. We have been around for much longer thanks to a great CEO. I believe though that Marc also sees reality for what it is: there are not really any opportunities left in the make money online space. I have tried a lot business ventures as well in the last few years and most of it is too competitive and there is no opportunity there. Marc and the team have paid a price that someone else was supposed to pay but this individual is long gone with millions of dollars. It is the world we live in, a world where the scammers get away with everything and the rest is losing. The reality is that most people that are still here are just waiting for the RP price to rise and then to get out and you will never see them again. I know that Marc has taken over this company because he is a passionate business person but just from the looks of it, is seems like your motivation isn't as it used to be and rightfully so.  As most of you know, I have been invested in MTV with quite a bit of money in the past as well but a lot of you also know that I have taken my money a few years ago and left. The reality is that I won't put any other money in the site and after this post I will probably never come back.  From the looks of it, this business, in its core is running stable now as far as income vs. expenses goes, so I am assuming that we can cover all expenses with the income that is being generated, but honestly? I think that if you still are waiting for your debt to be repaid, you will have to wait for a long time and I would argue that you might never get your money back. I know that Marc feels a personal responsibility to repay everyone but I believe that if someone is not willing to even log in to check their investments, they shouldn't expect to get repaid. Also even if you are still planning to repay anyone, why not just repay them the initial investment? Why not leave the interest out? Nobody would lose that way... For the people that still have RP's: let's be real here: the current value of the RP's reflects the value of the company. Thee is not reason why the RP's should be higher in price. So unless the company starts earning big money consistently the price won't go as there is no incentive for buyers to pick up the RP's, especially when there are no dividends being paid.  It is not like our RP's are trading at the NYSE exchange and there are actually outside investors trading our stocks and even then it would probably still end up as a penny stock. What this means is that the price probably won't come up anymore from my perspective or if so it will take years. Everybody just wants to get their money out and leave anyways and once people have done so, you will not see anyone around anymore.  I think we need to remember, that Marc is just a person with passion, but Marc remember, that you only have this one life and you need to take care of yourself too. I don't know your current situation but remember that money really isn't everything and you should look out for yourself too. I know you feel responsible, but there are some things you aren't responsible for and sometimes it is time to let them go. That being said, I wish you all the best.  dragonx996 Traffic Value: $13,804.15918 Singapore 2 like this post 0 people 08/03/2020 17:49 Marc, i suggest if you would like to add one of the payment option, do add the stable coin, such as USDT, and I believe a lot of people will using this. most importantly, the deposit and withdrawal fee is almost free rehmaan Traffic Value: $3,924.80401 India 3 like this post 0 people 09/03/2020 05:35 need to update mtv deposit method page,as payza,STP,OK PAY are already gone out of business slosumo - Administrator Traffic Value: $28,438.4426 Slovenia 4 like this post 0 people 09/03/2020 09:12 To @dguy and anyone interested in stocking up on banner impressions, that might want to buy but not without a pause feature: Anyone that buys 5 million impressions or more today on PTCshare, I'll pause/restart a campaign manually on request (best to post in this topic for a request)for you (no exaggerations with requests though ). Note it might not be instant, and if it takes me too long to get to I'll happily add/refund any banner imps as well. This offer is for today only - prices are still 70% off today! klemen50 Traffic Value: $5,893.23193 Slovenia 0 like this post 0 people 09/03/2020 13:01 Marc, about STP. Can we still deposit using STP, until it closes? DomingoX6 - Administrator Traffic Value: $2,272.07399 Venezuela 1 like this post 0 people 09/03/2020 14:56 @klemen50 Yes, you can deposit with STP until March 16th. jordy186 Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands 0 like this post 0 people 09/03/2020 16:11 maybe i am a bit to early, but i see the ads are sent but nothing is showing in my account  in PTCshare orlan12fish - Administrator Traffic Value: $5,500.61933 Guatemala 1 like this post 0 people 09/03/2020 16:18 Hey jordy! Can you double check now? I checked your account and your BAP has been already deducted just a few minutes later you wrote this message Let me know! jordy186 Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands 1 like this post 0 people 09/03/2020 16:52 lol yes i think i was to fast, the ads are showing now ! MarcdeKoning - Administrator Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands 3 like this post 0 people 10/03/2020 13:06 I know I said I´d post a topic a few days ago regarding potential real estate plays. I wrote it up, but I´m now discussing some very important specifics before I can post the topic and they require some research.

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