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Asterion Traffic Value: $9.54264 Thailand 1 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 16:45 Mio's Idea is good but it doesn t solve everything. I did some maths and I will try to explain. I take an example with group 11 ( 27$ clicker -> 27/0.0005 = 54000 BAP -> Win = 27*0.95 = 25.65$ ). - To stay in the group , you need to buy 54000 BAP / Day. 1) With Pack : 1 BAP = 1$ / 2400 = 0,0004166667  you need to buy (54000 * 0,0004166667 = 22.5$) -> Profit : 25.65 - 22.5 = 3.15$ 2) On Market : 1 BAP = (0.0039 / (13 * 0.95)) = 0,0003157895 you need to buy for : 54000 * 0,0003157895 = 17,0211 $ -> Profit : 25.65 - 17,02 = 8.63$ Question:  Why to buy Pack , when you do more profit on market ? I hope that my maths are OK , my explication is OK. orlan12fish - Administrator Traffic Value: $5,500.61933 Guatemala 0 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 16:47 By the way, by "ACTIVE campaign" I was referring to the rule of 14 days.. piro00 Traffic Value: $3,781.28667 Argentina 1 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 16:53 Marc I think, people that want to take advantage of multi accounts don't make deposits, they want to reach the minimum and cashout. So, PV users can not use the RP market to sell their BAPs if they don't buy at least $1 in BA (only new deposits). Or implemet a residence time, users with at least 3 months can use RP market gugakip Traffic Value: $739.34329 Belgium 0 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 17:02 Could we get some details about the amount of targeted ads and cheap traffic? I wonder how much real advertising we are selling, advertising that doesn't increase debt. We should promote PV/MTV more as an advertising platform too... or make a standalone website where users can buy advertising and nothing else, with the promise to deliver them on the net. We have the views/users, but we aren't paid accordingly. That has to be solved... MarcdeKoning - Administrator Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands 17 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 17:14 5-There is no transparency any more, is it just me who wants to know what is going on (mathematical facts about PBG and BMF ) Really? We are the most transparent business ever. You can see for yourself that people are not using playbitcoingames by looking at the biggest bets and cashouts, it's simply dormant so there's nothing to report. BMF we already explained that we're still building the tools to report a profit, we focussed on the user side first and then ran out of money.(And even then you can see the latest transfers page and we're really not getting big transfers, which I didn't expect anyway until we get Payza, STP and more fun stuff) There's really nothing fishy going on here and we're already pushing it extremely with the transparency, so I have to disagree big time. dguy Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada 3 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 18:25 So what if we drop the MAPs altogether and let people earn BAPs via the AAs with no taxes until they get 2000. When that happens they can cash in for their first ad only (no cashing out, no trading) and be on their way to earning in the groups. Taxes resume when they enter the groups which can be paid with AAs or stopped with their second ad purchase which they can get with earnings from their first ad or from a fresh deposit. Trading can resume with the second ad purchase also or else not until they have a certain number like Mio suggested At the end of the day the MAPs are really just good faith tokens that we give out cash but they are not as significant to the free members as they are to us. As long as we can lay out a game plan going forward I think they will not miss those MAPs. Without the MAPs it will be less like a free money site and more like task/achievement/reward site for free members so they should go one of two ways. They will probably not want to be a part of the climbing or, once they start their 'quest', stick it out for the longer term We could also make it like a game where, when they first join they are told what their goal is and the steps they need to get there. Kind of like a treasure hunt with notices, badges or titles when they get to certain achievement levels Also, we could keep the MAPs but only have it as a pay as you go system where they only show up if a member buys them to show. Similar to other ad offerings. Maybe we could set it up so that it goes to the newest members or the ones with the fewest BAPs or something along that line. The downside is that would be money we would be diverting away from ad packs. Also, a question. do you really think the free members are having a significant effect on the market with all the power the big fishes control in the trading? stobb Traffic Value: $159.22316 India 1 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 18:42 wooh today was a hell ride in gambling but in the end FORTUNE FAVOURS FOR BOLD  you can see my game stat today it was epic yamibami Traffic Value: $3,590.48053 United Kingdom 3 like this post 1 people 06/08/2016 19:21 @Marc "There's really nothing fishy going on here and we're already pushing it extremely with the transparency, so I have to disagree big time." I did not mean you guys doing fishy and if any of you understand like that I am sorry, If I did not trust you and the team I would not have invested at all, I should have written "not as transparent as It should be" However this is not about accountability it purely about statistics and more of them. It is like  when you make an investment you check how the things going on  after then you check  again  how it is progressing, I hope you understand where i come from. As I said this criticism is all about how we get better and better. jordy186 Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands 1 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 19:52 are we getting a 3K result day today, we are close already MichaelKline Traffic Value: $960.97608 United States 1 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 20:05 Asterion Because the Market is a BAP reducer, not an ad generator. It serves a different purpose in the system. ($22.00 * 2,400) - ($22.00 * 2,000) = 8,800 NEW BAP created by buying new ad packs. $17.00 / $0.0039 * 13 * 0.05% = 2,833 BAP Removed by buying RP and trading for [already existing] BAP. kejdi Traffic Value: $11,007.43755 Albania 0 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 20:12 Is the email confirmation for gmail solved or do we have to change email to get the confirmation. Sorry for asking here but I have been absent , today I am liking the numbers which each group has got in bap ads. kyerby Traffic Value: $114.4342 United States 9 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 20:12 sms verification for new accounts wont go well for those who only have a landline or communicate online rather then have a cell phone plan. Send a verification code to email may help. Only one code for that email account. A 40 multi probably doesn't want to create 40 email accounts to cheat. I do however want all cheaters banned. I am a free member but have in my history at this site, estimating the total before the ad count reset months ago; clicked 25000+ ads. I have reinvested my earnings from this site into over 3000 shares. I have not requested a single cash out. Some may disagree but I feel like I am a helpful member of the community. Some of you may have me as a referral via the marketplace link promo threads in the forum. I at least try out every site I join. Rest assured if you have me as a referral you have at least slightly benefitted. druth8x Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States 0 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 20:12 I agree Michael. However, the BAP reduced from the BAP Market is nothing compared to the FREE BAP via the AA ads, that aren't consumed by the daily TAX. In fact, the Total BAP removed via the BAP Market is only a small % of the NEW Purchased BAP coming in via BA ads. I don't advocate for removal of the BAP Marketplace, but it is a factor to be taken into account. druth8x Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States 1 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 20:15 kyerby, I agree with much of what you stated. However, "A 40 multi probably doesn't want to create 40 email accounts to cheat." Not true at all. Multiple Email accounts are easy to create and manage. ESP if they already create and manage multiple accounts on one website. MichaelKline Traffic Value: $960.97608 United States 1 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 21:29 I whole heartedly agree with the idea of only issuing Micro Ads and BAP Ads based on "actual" expenditures on the ad spots. Doing it this way allows for unlimited ad spots. I would suggest dividing the issue up by hours instead of a single issue to make it more fair to users around the globe. You already keep track of issued micro/bap ads, simply use them as placeholders to keep track of ads viewed from available ad pool. For example: we are normally issued 8 BAP ads, which would now show up as 8 grayed-out ads. When I viewed the page and there was ads available for view, the first one would become clickable. After successfully viewing an ad, that placeholder would disappear and if there were still more ads available, the first placeholder would become clickable again, etc. Placeholders would reset at server reset. carvalho17 Traffic Value: $28.3459 Brazil 0 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 22:56 And who will pay $5 to get less than 5k views? Just a few of them are bought delivering 20k+ druth8x Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States 0 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 23:33 $5 only gets you 250 views (plus a small over delivery on avg) via BA. That said, like I said earlier in this thread, the AA's will probably be more expensive, as those get more views per $, even if you have to outbid a bit vs BA. stra Traffic Value: $285.59089 Greece 0 like this post 2 people 06/08/2016 23:38 1. 15% repurchase rule for PV 2. People with up to 1000 BAPs can only trade 50% of their BAPs at the RP/BAP market.                     up to 5000 BAPs can only trade 65% of their BAPs at the RP/BAP market                     up to 10,000 BAPs can trade 80% of their BAPs at the RP/BAP market                     more than 20,000 BAPs can trade 100% of their BAPs at the RP/BAP market 3. If no sw@p ever, people in PV can't access MTV before buying one bulk ad pack     No taxes for them until they reach 1$. 4. Minimum PV cashout at least 5$. If i made mistakes (of course i did), i am expecting you correcting them. There is more but .... all things in good time. carvalho17 Traffic Value: $28.3459 Brazil 1 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 23:57 @stra About 1 : really? They ('We') are improving a business and trying to get rid of any ponzi element in the site for months and you suggest the main words of ponzi sites ('Repurchase Rule'); About 4: that might help slowing the frequency of small cashouts (of abusers) and make it easier to catch them (check one by one, there will just be a few of them, and just a time in months -to get $5-), but it does not solve the BAP MARKET / Micro Ad Packs issue, neither help "real" free users. stra Traffic Value: $285.59089 Greece 1 like this post 0 people 07/08/2016 00:04 @carvalho17 You may be right about (1), but i think it will really help against abusers and give PV a push. Anyway, i expect opinions like yours, i am not unmistakable.

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