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Nenorma Traffic Value: $126.13469 Macedonia 0 like this post 1 people 06/08/2016 08:03 So, with your math druth8x I'll need how many years to come to group let's say 6? 102 years? druth8x Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States 0 like this post 1 people 06/08/2016 08:31 As you climb BAP Groups, esp once you can get to $1, w/o ever incurring the fee, will allow you to climb faster. Larger Group Ads, in fact ANY Instant/Recycle/CT, plus no BAP lost due to the daily tax, will make it that much faster to climb Groups. The MAP and AA are vital b/c those actually are a lot of $ and BAP. Too much work, at least w/o a way to short hand it better, to figure out when you reach each Group Milestone. Though, obviously, starting at $0 or $1, and Banks wouldn't even let you earn interest on that little amount. I showed that in only 28 days, you will have (if it was all CASH) turned $1 into $3.15 srsly 315% in 28 days (it doesn't work with more than $1, b/c most of it is the free BAP and MAP and Groups, but still), and I'm sure in 1 year, it will be a lot more (even if, b/c you aren't satisfied with your Group lvl, they are in BAP form). You are being silly/pessimistic one could even say antagonistic/detrimental. (Debby Downer) When was a sustainable PV ever going to have the ability to climb Groups for free, no to little invested, just time and a few clicks and really fast? Like Marc said, for the low lvl clickers, who make $1 an hour in faucets (I should think about doing them, I just don't want all the clutter of ads etc), adding PV into that earning opportunity, is reasonable. Keep depositing your outside earnings into PV, and soon you will be at your desired Group. mio2815 Traffic Value: $32,608.39303 Germany 43 like this post 1 people 06/08/2016 08:45 On all the fighting against multi accounts people please don't forget free users are essential for all PTC's. And advertisers will only come if there is a big amount of users. My Solution: Make a simple rule as: You could only use BAP Market if you are in Group, say 2 or 3. This will avoid multi accounters from cashing in BAP's on a daily basis. And it will leave the PTC crowd the chance to earn and climb the ladder if they want to.   shaheen19 Traffic Value: $294.60488 Philippines 0 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 08:50 I think BTC deposit/add cash fee PV/MTV unfair . Cashout ok. They cut all side our money . AhmedTeefa Traffic Value: $72.18984 Egypt 9 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 09:21 @Marc a lot of people are creating 40-50-60 accounts and then use the BAP market to transfer it to 1 account and make a cashout of a few dollar each day. I Think it doesn't need all that changes to solve the problem. here is what i would do Modify the BAP market system to prevent buying any shares on BAP market made from same IP at least for a minute , so if i have multi accounts and tried that trick to transfere BAPs i dont have any chance to buy the shares back to my main account javiersoro Traffic Value: $170.72939 Spain 0 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 09:41 @MarcdeKoning A few days ago I have purchased some advertising, but one of them (On the ClickGrid) was rejected, can you return me the money? (I want to buy more advertising) ejejejeje (I'm not scolding nothing) Thanks, Javier. JuanZero1 Traffic Value: $27.19508 Philippines 1 like this post 1 people 06/08/2016 09:50 I agree with mio's suggestion, and I may add that not all free users are multi-account users but some, if not most of them, are potential investors as well in which if they will be enticed to do so can help generate more funds to the site's development and growth.  Regarding multi-accounts, one of the ways to stop it is to require everyone (including all current users) to submit and upload ID's with photos like Passport, Driver's license etc., in that way it will discouraged a lot of fictitious users as well as to avoid below legal age persons to create accounts. Nenorma Traffic Value: $126.13469 Macedonia 1 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 10:39 JuanZero1 https://www.google.com/search?q=fake+IDs&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=955&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjzjJXHzKzOAhWpAsAKHWjzBPMQ_AUIBigB#tbm=isch&q=ID+CARDS MarcdeKoning - Administrator Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands 37 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 10:59 Hmm, your idea could work too Mio. It would give people less of the feeling that it's a money sink as they would have to put in $1 to get out. I'll keep it in mind and talk about it to Slosumo once he returns. Olavski-NL Traffic Value: $39.623 Netherlands 1 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 11:11 I like Mio's idea too! But would you be able to use the RP/BAP market if you don't have any BAP, but only RP? dguy Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada 16 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 11:20 Yes, Mio's idea is good. You need to be very careful when going after 'free' clickers because they eat up a lot of traffic and do a ton of work. In clixsense, something like 95% of my referrals are not upgraded yet they click thousands of ads, so they are not worthless. They are people hungry for opportunity. I think there is a lot of money in giving them work and opportunity (plus there are noble goals behind it too). I think we just need to figure out how to do that while not going broke So when you toss out all these free clickers from the two markets, how are you going to make up for the debt removal and fees they generate? mikeb270 Traffic Value: $5,145.88309 United States 6 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 12:17 would be interesting to see country stats on abusive accounts MarcdeKoning - Administrator Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands 18 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 12:19 The debt removal of BAP is far smaller compared to the tax they were trying to evade. By implementing this measure, the RP's will hold a lot more value as they will no longer be a dump site for multi-accounts and other free users who try to evade the bap tax. 200 BAP at 12 BAP/RP got them 16 RP's per day for free, which is 6.4 cents per user, per day that would be dumped on the market. A few 1000 people were using this method, so this will definitely lower the amount of selling pressure and greatly improve the overall value of RP's. I am open for suggestions to allow free users to earn in ways that either cost us nothing or not so much. Obviously we are not trying to get rid of our free users, so we have to keep them interested. Please come up with detailed ideas only and we've mentioned the faucet many times already, which we will try to build in some kind of way in the future. I will do whatever I can to inform the people of Paidverts as good as possible to explain them how to earn in Paidverts (This is an opportunity for many of you that have youtube/facebook channels or blogs) and why these changes are not all bad. 99% of them hasn't read this news topic, so there will be a lot of explaining to do, let's all try to work as a team and explain them exactly what they should do in a friendly way. stobb Traffic Value: $159.22316 India 0 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 12:29 Let's hope for the best Asterion Traffic Value: $9.54264 Thailand 0 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 13:29 HI Everyone. I have some questions: 1)In group 0 , you have 15 524 891 Users (Accounts). This number is real ? 2) With 15534025 Users (total) , you have to create : ( 200 - 100 ) * 15 534 025 = 1 553 402 500 BAP (Minimum ) . OK ? this is huge. Thanks for answer. mirom83 Traffic Value: $305.95754 Serbia 1 like this post 6 people 06/08/2016 13:33 my sugestion is to involve sms verification during new acc registration.  it will cost u someting but i know from exp, u can make thousands of new email for unique registration but u have only few cells around you which u can use for confirmation it will cut 50 to 10-15 acc max per creep(free user) second  creeps wana to make money fast, you can consider time limit like 30 days with no paid ads just baps acumulating this will cut huge amount of creeps, hey if some one use 30+ accs for 30 day active and clicking dude let him he diserved it third after xx days of acumulating baps another creep filter, sledgehammer of 90% creeps, 2$ initializaton fee (or blowj*b to 10 old members instead)  also biger tax for daily inactivity  and if u pay me 100.000 baps i will tell for one bug in ur sistem akkydude92 Traffic Value: $4,684.00091 Ireland 0 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 13:46 Perhaps a faucet with some sort of game with a house edge could be implemented, as well as a deposit feature for those who want to try their luck on it with cash they earn from other faucets. It would then have more stability, more chance to profit, and free clickers get something else to do.  Ar1f11 Traffic Value: $335.98079 Bangladesh 10 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 13:56 Hello Marc, I think BAP BID market will be the easiest solution. I am giving you the point. 1. If any user opens 40-50-60 accounts, they will not be able to transfer their BAP to one account because they will need to go through the BID market. So the percentage of transferring shares to one account will be 0 because I don't think they will find any way. So, after some day, they will surely quit using the multi account and in very short time, the multi account owner will leave paidverts or they will stick to their one account. Still, if anyone wants to use multi account, we have the SHCP members with those eyes, who are always finding multi account. 2. We know about the past, when a person needed to view more than 200 ads per day. We covered a lot of ad delivery because of the free user. It wouldn't be possible with only paid users because they would use ad filter and we would have been in a far worse position than we were then. As we are growing and almost all of us are thinking about the long term it can happen again, when we will need these free members. Even if you think about 20 ads per day, I don't think it is possible without free members. Most importantly if we want to improve our rankings in site like alexa, we will need active traffic, which are the free members. Think about neo, with free members, once they were on the top 50 list of alexa. As we are offering 0.025$ like other PTC but with less ads, free members will increase day by day and our rankings will increase also. 3. BAP BID market will also create more activity in the BAP market and debt reduction will be more and the value of the BAP RP will not go up much according to the cash RP value. 4. Most importantly it will take less programming time than the restrictions because we already have cash bid market. So, I think it will be easy to code. We know about the RP market restrictions. People love to do their work freely. So, I think restricting micro clickers will be a punishment for the free members because I don't think even 1% people of the free users are related with the cheating. I am here for almost 2 years and after joining for only one month I faced the first paidverts sw@p from that mad person. My account has got reset for 4 times in these 2 years. All my strategies are gone into vein. If I cash out now, I won't even receive my deposited money. Still I am here because I know the potentiality of FBG. We are a crowd funded company. So, I think we need to think about the crowd first and most of them are those free PTC members. I am following the forum since you have become our CEO. So, I hope that you will take the best decision for all of us. yamibami Traffic Value: $3,590.48053 United Kingdom 10 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 15:43 Hi a little constructive criticism about MTV  1-If we verify new users via mobile phone, and implement Mio`s idea ( being group 2-3 allow to use bap market ) will solve the problem  2-Free users are the main value of any ptc website, and everybody cannot be advertiser ,period . (pv is not the only ptc website in the world) 3- I feel like too many major changes in such a short time. It is worrying as an investor. 4-Marc keeps talking about rp price , if  people starts profiting ,  believe me it will rise.   5-There is no transparency any more, is it just me who  wants to know what is going on (mathematical facts about PBG and BMF ) Ps: As an investor i think there is no room to invest , if i like trading i can surely invest in stock market. i would like to hear your thoughts. Many Thanks orlan12fish - Administrator Traffic Value: $5,500.61933 Guatemala 1 like this post 0 people 06/08/2016 16:28 I would go for bozof's idea instead of stalling in a group to use the BAP market You need to have an ACTIVE campaign to use the BAP market Free users can scale to group 2 or 3 "easily" by viewing AA and playing some games. The other problem is Micro Ad Packs. Have you thought about... Removing the MAP the days we do get Ad Issues? If so, you would have to share the Ad Issue with group 0 during the weekend (monday to friday). I think this would reduce the $500 cost, but also this would harm the selling of ads (but you're not evening earning that much so...) MAP should be available for Saturday and Sunday You have lowered the ROI % (3100 to 2400), you have lowered the price per campaign ($1.05 to $1), why not lower the Micro Ad Packs too? Consume 35 or 40 BAP to receive 12 low value ads Half the MAP. Consume 25 BAP to receive 12 low value ads BUT double it for users who have an ACTIVE campaign.

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