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MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
05/08/2016
19:43
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To keep updated with the current events, please follow these channels: CEO - Marc de Koning Facebook - Paidverts Facebook - My Traffic Value Barter My Funds ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Currently there's a lot of brainstorming going on. Paidverts' model is good in its current state, but it can be far better for longterm sustainability. Free users get rewarded way too much without putting in the effort to even learn about the system or putting in a dollar. And because Paidverts gives out "so much" cash to free users, a lot of people are creating 40-50-60 accounts and then use the BAP market to transfer it to 1 account and make a cashout of a few dollar each day. This does not create any value for us at all. Also.. We do not even need free users at the moment and i'll explain you exactly why! We're SHORT on campaigns and PURPOSEFULLY stalling the delivery times so we can keep the non stop routine of delivering different campaigns. We can easily deliver all of the pending campaigns in just 1 day if we would let all of you do 20 (ballpark figure) ads or so. On top of that.. Many people are in it for the revenue share part now. We do not get more than $500 per day in PURE advertising at the moment. Of course we can easily cover for the micro ad packs because of the Bulk ads, upgrades, debt removal by fees and games and the advertising, but we are not selling $500 pure advertising per day and that's what the micro ad pack should really be about. We currently sell those spots for about $5 per day and they're not even getting filled every day, which is quite shameful. We have to make a choice. We can keep offering an extremely easy method for free users to earn money with us (which results in them mostly trying to abuse the system) or we choose to give value to people who actually buy advertising with bap in our company. I prefer to go for the 2nd option. I think it's a very good idea to make it a little harder to make free cash in paidverts, but based on ACTUAL sales. Like we paid fast track queues, ad issues and dividends based on ACTUAL sales. Meaning: If we sell a micro ad pack for let's say $50 (We'd increase the minimum price) that would result in 2000 people being able to request the micro ad pack ($50/$0.025=2000) OR Only offer the micro ad pack to people with a paidverts membership upgrade (When you buy the membership upgrade you get 3 of them per day, which means you pay for your own micro ad packs, but combined with the other perks it makes sense, especially with the upcoming forum which will give you some BIG benefits of having the membership  )And I want to implement an idea that Bozof wrote on this forum about 2 weeks ago (Yes, we do read everything  ).I'll use his original post: 19/07/2016 14:27 Edit | Delete I would add something else to PV. Only people who bought AD pack last 14 days are able to sell their BAPs for RP. There is nearly 6.000.000 BAP Paidverts give free to users every days and if only 20% of those BAPs is going to be sold for RP is that 0.5 - 1 mil taxes less on daily basis and that is 250-500$/day what makes 7.500-15.000$ more debt from that address monthly! Since BAP price will be surely way under 50BAP/RP maybe even more free users will sell their BAPs for RP. That would be prevent to increase debt a lot. This prevents all those multi-accounters to make 40-60 accounts and cash out. If we implement these things, does this mean we're making it impossible to earn money for free? NO. That's absolutely not the case. We just want to give people the option to earn for free, but based on actual revenues and prohibiting bot abuse, multi-accounting and all that other shady stuff as much as possible. People can still join and do BAP ads for a number of days and get to group 1, where the earning for free can start. And they can easily make a few dollars with our offer walls for free and seriously speed up their growth in Paidverts. They should use Paidverts and other ptc's as if they were faucets. You use 40 of them per day, spend an hour in total and earn about a dollar for free per day. That's more or less how it works in the "new online earnings industry". We've been offering them $500-$1000/day for free for ages and it just results in a lot of people trying to abuse the system, which seriously devalues our advertising value. By doing this, we will have a lot more cash/profits that we can use to share revenues with bulk ad purchasers (It's not an investment, but we make it an effort to give people a place to make some cash while advertising). This results in long term sustainability and a model based on REAL revenues being shared. We also plan to temporarily skew the bulk ad packs in the favor of Paidverts. We can easily keep this $1k ad issue per day going, which is about a 1% return at the current state, but we aim to keep that up for a very long time and in order to achieve that, we have to take a good look at the model and adjust the percentages so they actually make up for a sustainable revenue sharing environment. Currently about 46% of the Bulk ads goes to development funds, 10% to the portfolio (Development funds as well) and 10% goes to the referrer. This means about 34% actually gets shared, which is not a bad thing at all as we're not aiming to build a ponzi or a revenue share based on money exchanging hands. And we've got a number of amazing products which do very well removing debt, on top of that upgrades which do not cost us anything but give the users great perks.. All that makes up for a great and sustainable system. But we all know that in this industry people care a lot about excitement as well. And after our cron issues our bulk ad sales dropped from 5.5k per day to about 2-2.5k per day, which decreased our development funds-flow by a lot. It also resulted in smaller ad issues, but the current ad issues should still be fine for everyone who is in search of a RELIABLE earner instead of a 200% per day opportunity which closes its doors on the first day. We'll temporarily tweak our bulk ad packs a bit so they actually contribute a bit more to the ad issues. This might sound like we're adding a ponzi-element, but this is more or less just a short term measure as our bulk ad sales vastly outpace the amount of debt being removed at the moment (Which is normal, as the debt is still low). This will make up for the following end result: Positives: -Less BAP tax being evaded -Less multi-accounts -Increased advertising value -Adding value to the membership upgrade -A more sustainable paidverts which is able to keep up with the current growth Negatives: -Less dividends until this new system proves its value and the fast track queue gets paid off Dividends will still happen when we profit, but dividends are the thing that we pay last. Dividends are company profits. As long as we got fast track queue debt and bills for the staff, we do not focus on dividends. This also explains why I choose a 80/20 approach of paying fast tracks and dividends. Another big thing to keep in mind though.. Currently i'm getting a number of emails from Carlos about fully legalizing our business and giving our RP's actual value. He is currently working with a company that can give us all the things that we need in order to achieve these things that we've been chasing for so long (or at least they claim). I am not 100% confident until I get the final call. I simply don't allow myself to get all excited anymore as we've had such kind of messages a few times before, but never in such details. I had to tell them how many shareholders we have, the amount of shares, the value of the company, the amount of assets we were holding and they even gave prices for the full package of realizing all this.. (They are reasonable for the options it would offer us in return) I really hope this works out.. As none of us (The mtv team) enjoys being in the current situation in which we can barely show ourselves to banks and bigger investors as they simply require the appropriate documentation to work with you. We want to expand, we want to go big.. And it has taken us too long already being in the position in which we are. Although I got to admit that being in this position wasn't all negative as we learned the true value of money and services, we cut on a lot of our costs, we worked on making every single part of the business sustainable.. Fingers crossed. -- The fast track queue market currently offers you some very interesting deals to profit from, go check it out! -- Total ad issue: $1000 BAP Group …... Percent (x100) …... $Available …... No. Users …. $ Ads /User 100 to 1599 …........ 0.000 …........ 0.000 155 24891 …........ 0.0000 1600 to 12k …........ 0.150 …........ 150 …........ 7231 …........ 0.0207 12000 to 24k …........ 0.028 …........ 28 …........ 783 …........ 0.0358 24k to 48k …........... 0.032 …........... 32 …........ 490 …........ 0.0653 48k to 96k …........ 0.048 …........ 48 …........ 285 …........ 0.1684 96k to 180k …........ 0.060 …........ 60 …........ 147 …........ 0.4082 180k to 360k …........ 0.092 …........ 92 …........ 99 …........ 0.9293 360k to 720k …........ 0.080 …........ 80 …........ 44 …........ 1.8182 720k to 1.5m …........ 0.105 …........ 105 …........ 31 …........ 3.3871 1.5m to 3m …........ 0.075 …........ 75 …........ 10 …........ 7.5000 3m to 6m …........ 0.060 …........ 60 …........ 4 …........ 15.0000 6m to 20m …........ 0.270 …........ 270 …........ 10 …........ 27.0000 20m+ …........... 0.000 …........ 0 …........ 0 …........ #DIV/0! 50m+ …........... 0.000 …........ 0 …........ 0 …........ #DIV/0! 100m+ …........... 0.000 …........ 0 …........ 0 …........ #DIV/0! Ads were sent as: BAP GROUP 1x small 1x big 10xmini 100 to 1599 …........ 0 …........ 0 …........ 0 1600 to 12k …........ 0.002 …........ 0.009 …........ 0.001 12000 to 24k …........ 0.003 …........ 0.023 …........ 0.001 24k to 48k …........ 0.006 …........ 0.05 …........ 0.001 48k to 96k …........ 0.014 …........ 0.145 …........ 0.001 96k to 180k …........ 0.033 …........ 0.366 …........ 0.001 180k to 360k …........ 0.075 …........ 0.835 …........ 0.002 360k to 720k …........ 0.146 …........ 1.633 …........ 0.004 720k to 1.5m …........ 0.271 …........ 3.047 …........ 0.007 1.5m to 3m …........ 0.6 …........ 6.75 …........ 0.015 3m to 6m …........ 1.2 …........ 13.5 …........ 0.03 6m to 20m …........ 2.16 …........ 24.3 …........ 0.054 20m+ …........ #DIV/0! …........ #DIV/0! …........ #DIV/0! 50m+ …........ #DIV/0! …........ #DIV/0! …........ #DIV/0! 100m+ …........ #DIV/0! …........ #DIV/0! …........ #DIV/0!
Vixthra
Traffic Value: $2,179.00664 Slovenia
05/08/2016
19:56
It was definitely time for something to be done in the "freebie" area.Giving free BAP and a part conversion to $ AND MEANWHILE being able to convert both to RPs is too much free value, and evasion of any kind of tax.
joe31800
Traffic Value: $6,016.01548 United States
05/08/2016
20:00
Lets attain legality, sustainability, and a paid off FTQ before we worry about paying dividends.And anything to eliminate the multi-accounters bleeding our system dry day after day is a great thing!
Nenorma
Traffic Value: $126.13469 Macedonia
05/08/2016
20:09
I like the idea to purchase $1 at list to be able to sell rp's. That's all we need for stopping multi acc.Big like Bzof
yaqui1234
Traffic Value: $63.37456 Spain
05/08/2016
20:11
@MarcdeKoningDo you think tomorrow will rise announcements of upgrades $ 2.99 and $ 19.99?
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
05/08/2016
20:22
I doubt anyone wants to pay $50 for 2000 visitors of FA MAP, esp when a LA is avl, for 30-35K visitors, same as the AA's for $10 or $15, if you outbid someone. Thus, if you restrict MAP to just a few thousand, and first come first serve, noone will spend $5. I think the AA might be on avg $10 instead though.I wonder what the Membership Upgrade perks you think are well worth the price via the PV Forum, cause right now, unless I would send a lot of PIF, I don't see the financial reason to have an upgrade. What happens to the Ad Pool Funds, that wouldn't go to MAP? If it's Group Ads, then instead of $1000, we could have nearly $1500 aka 1.5% returns?
klikdiva
Traffic Value: $1,701.2323 Honduras
05/08/2016
20:48
People will start to dislike, but the reason many are not buying ad campaigns is the BAP market.I get that you Marc want/need to remove debt, but there has to be found another way for that too, because like every time before, there is more and more people clicking in Paidverts and they do BAP market and do not buy campaigns (really are we down to $500 in advertising purchases now??) to go up the group ladder, so there are little or no ads to see and less cash amount for members that invested into the groups to earn (more members in a group, same or less size of cake to share) like what is starting to go on now and eventually we will get to a stall like the one we just left behind with the reset. Besides, the lower groups get more % in cash rewards so the scammers have more reasons to open farms of multiaccounts that drain PV's economy.
casio8978 - Forum moderator
Traffic Value: $14,531.83197 Slovenia
05/08/2016
20:53
Good to see our users ideas recognised and implemented  Keep on brainstorming! And good, encouraging news about legalizing our business. This would/will be a game changer. Fingers crossed.
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
05/08/2016
21:05
$500 in non BA purchases.$2-$3K in BA purchases. That said, I don't understand how the %'s stated allow for $500-$1000 in "free" MAP AND EASY $1000 in Group Ad Issues. BTW, the BAP Market is not reducing much in BAP debt. ESP compared to the "free" AA vs BAP fee (those that didn't buy a BA past 14 days) given. Thus, there is more BAP free, that wasn't originally bought at some point in time. That said, BA's are debt makers, they don't help Group Ad Issues, near as much as Pure Ad Pool sources. The BAP debt grows, more than it can pay off. I'd much rather suspend NEW BA, until BAP Market corrects itself (it's actually not far off anyways), than close it. ESP b/c I want everyone the ability to divest themselves of their BAP in a hurry if need be (yes BAP is a Bonus, NOT an Investment, keep thinking that is the buyers see it), AND for advertisers who don't want to click ads, to get some % back (they can pick non BAP ad options, but still).
vicura
Traffic Value: $4,969.3683 Spain
05/08/2016
21:07
So far, the only way to get dev funds is via results and Ad sales, right? So the only reason people would invest in MTV is via RP, unless people want to click ads for a 15% ROI or so. Am I right? Wanted to clarify this
bpc1234
Traffic Value: $62,710.15909 United States
05/08/2016
21:26
Great news. This isnt a welfare state. Time to clean house on the dead weight.Also crazy timesaver not having to dick 24/7 with these multi acct con artists. A bonus:99% of the professional forum pests here are free users. I also want BAP market gone but Im in the minority. I do use it since its there and saves me $ but I want it gone for the greater good.
RichardUlman
Traffic Value: $99.47024 Slovakia (SLOVAK Republic)
05/08/2016
21:38
I don't want to use BAP market or RP market... I don't want to use MTV in any way... but what can I do when there is always some sw@p? I have almost 500 shares (combined with this sw@p and sw@p before), but what can I do with it? Nothing... so I can just wait until another sw@p I guess...Today I bought AD packs (right now it's pending, so I hope that my ticket will be resolved soon) to get to 3rd group... before sw@p I was in 4th group, but right now I don't have so much money. I'm in Paidverts cuz I want to earn some money... so where is the guarantee and who can guarantee that maybe by the end of the year there will not be another sw@p and I won't go to Zero group again?
jpla1991
Traffic Value: $773.5176 Portugal
05/08/2016
21:46
I totally agree that something has to be done to prevent multi-accounts, but I don't think we should "punish" the free PV users as some of them, like myself, have already deposited some money, but went through sw@ps. My sugestion goes toward a free account where you can only see activation ads and micro ad packs once you are verified. That would put an extra effort in "verification staff", but I believe it would be fair. Or is it that easy to forge an identity confirmation?
carvalho17
Traffic Value: $28.3459 Brazil
05/08/2016
22:10
"Buy 1 adpack in 14 days to be able to sell BAP for RP". Just group 3 and above will be able to get $1 in 14 days. Thats like freeze the BAP of free /small investment users for week(s). Marc said they were paying $10 or less btc cashouts fast, because "that would prevent a decline of people talking/promoting about us" , this is doing the opposite.
klikdiva
Traffic Value: $1,701.2323 Honduras
05/08/2016
22:11
BTW, the BAP Market is not reducing much in BAP debt.druth8x More reason to get rid of the BAP market. If the point of Paidverts is to become a pure advertising platform, we should be focusing on selling advertising and giving limited options of earning back from it. I'd also join the bandwagon of the ones that proposed to remove last 3 BAP groups. If someone wants to earn bigger returns should go to MTV as was intended some time ago.
jordy186
Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands
05/08/2016
22:20
I think MTV should come up btc faucet where free players also can profit and work their way into MTV and or pv with the earned satoshi
MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
05/08/2016
22:29
Faucets are really not that profitable as many of you make it sound.99% of the faucets go bust within a few weeks, others are simply lucky or make the page look extremely scammy/spammy with 100s of banners/pop up ads etc. Yes, we could perhaps earn a little bit of cash, but it really won't be special at all or we would have prioritized it already.
bpc1234
Traffic Value: $62,710.15909 United States
05/08/2016
22:30
"Faucets are really not that profitable as many of you make it sound."What about a faucet that only can be used for ad packs? (or something similar) Name escapes me but isnt there a faucet advertised on here that only pays in ads?
MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
05/08/2016
22:32
I don't follow, please explain.
bpc1234
Traffic Value: $62,710.15909 United States
05/08/2016
22:39
Its set up like any BTC faucet where users click to get BTC and MTV makes its $ from outside advertising networks.Difference is that the user can ONLY use clicking profit for ad packs, RPs, or MTV ads, etc Take out the BTC aspect or keep BTC but BTC can only go toward ad packs, RPs, or MTV ads, etc. Much easier and cost efficent to take BTC away all together. People seem to love wailing away on faucets. This one is an MTV/PV faucet. I would click hard for RPs. In a few years there going to be worth serious $. |
