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emmanuel322 Traffic Value: $40,205.23673 United States 7 like this post 4 people 30/01/2015 03:33 If I buy advertisements but I don't use my credits or I have nothing to really advertise.... should there not be a way which I can capitalize on it while MTV also makes a percentage of whatever I make? Lets say I buy 1$ ad pack... I then get all the credits for the advertisements... I want to sell my ad credits on a discount to someone else who wants them... say I sell them for .80 cents to someone else... (whatever I sell it for MTV gets a percent of it) I can now make money from the actual ad revenue and also the ad credits which I don't use ... Rough Idea but I know JO will get the gist of it he sees it.... You can implement this as an auction market or on a designated discount price... emmanuel322 Traffic Value: $40,205.23673 United States 1 like this post 0 people 30/01/2015 18:24 No comments ? LOL chouras Traffic Value: $670.898 Portugal 2 like this post 0 people 30/01/2015 18:29 VERY GOOD IDEA BRO! WE CAN EARN MORE$ AND THE ADVERTISER SAVE $ MORE, VERY GOOD, EVERYBODY WINS! PLS JO PUT THIS IDEA ON PV! jagodinac123 Traffic Value: $390.26943 Serbia 0 like this post 0 people 30/01/2015 18:30 the post probably needed Bumping to be seen...during all this comotion... emmanuel322 Traffic Value: $40,205.23673 United States 0 like this post 0 people 31/01/2015 04:36 Just seems like people are in different times zones and the least amount of people are on mines.... thatsme Traffic Value: $125.78449 India 0 like this post 0 people 31/01/2015 06:53 Your's idea was nice, but i can't agree with all of it and i don't want to criticize any way,its just my opinion.. we already knows that paidverts and Jo is going to do some changes inside this business model like bulk ads, commissions FTQ and all .. that would be great for maintain and sustain this business for long term and about Jo's idea is not going to harm the users any way except may be 5% decrease from normal earnings, right?? as per my search i can see that most of them are not here to purchase cheap ads except few and those who are looking for climb into bap group in order to get larger paid ads .. Even though someone here to get or like to buy target ad they will not be ready for 25 credit for 80cen cuz system has another one option here is that 'cheap ads' and 'target ads' going to be introduce in future so the double benefit is not great idea , instead we can go for 5cen for 50 credit those doesn't have nothing to advertise... me too just like you that don't have nothing to advertise i always go with share ........ if there any mistake , you can correct it... emmanuel322 Traffic Value: $40,205.23673 United States 0 like this post 0 people 31/01/2015 23:21 The 80 cents was only an example.... your credits are still your credits nobody can use them anyways..... that means they are locked to you ... if you sell them lets say for even 20 cents and MTV gets 3% that is still a profit.... Cheap ads can still be implemented because people will not want to sell their credits always ... this can also mean that your sell cap can be limited by whatever amount of credits you have bought meaning if you buy 1 dollar of ads ... you expect 155% from it .. if you sell your credits ...whatever you make can be put into that 155% cap.... so as to be a method of getting your return quicker ... friend11 Traffic Value: $455.43947 Croatia (LOCAL Name: Hrvatska) 3 like this post 0 people 31/01/2015 23:35 Basically you want to be able to sell your ad views that you receive from buying ads in paidverts (not padiverts). Like having a market for selling the 50 ad views you receive for your $1. I'm not sure how much justice would this do to the paidverts site. Eventually we would get in a situation where members with big accounts are selling views to other members for a discount, so why would anyone then buy advertising from the actual website? You can get BAP by buying shares and then selling them for BAP, and then you would also have people buying ad views for a discount. Less and less need for purchasing anything through paidverts.  I don't think that our ideas should be such that they take away the business from paidverts. Plus there is quite a risk that this might turn paidverts into some sort of a ponzi scheme and paypal would notice it eventually. People have to buy advertising and they have to advertise, that's the service they get, in order for the site not to be called a ponzi game. yallit Traffic Value: $2,148.94717 Philippines 2 like this post 1 people 31/01/2015 23:35 @emmanuel322, Hmmm.. let's say you're an advertiser and I'm going to sell to you my ad credits that's discounted by 20%. And then you check the PV site and found out you can actually get a potential 155% return from your purchase, will you still take my offer or will you instead buy the ads directly from PV? emmanuel322 Traffic Value: $40,205.23673 United States 2 like this post 0 people 31/01/2015 23:59 friend11 .... you would only need to implement a rule that only allows people that have already bought ads from paidverts to be able to buy views from other members..... if you have not bought a pack then you can't buy.... besides that you can also implement a rule that people cant buy more credits at a discount than whatever active credits that they have on time of purchase... ponzi game ? really? you really did not give this much thought did you? yallit people that would buy them would 1) not be interested in earning or 2) already earning and wanting more credits so that whatever they are advertising gets more views....plus they get a discount Have you thought that some people don't really want to click all those ads? they just want the ads ? ..... its a perfect idea for the previous two types of people. iworknet Traffic Value: $400.67513 Philippines 1 like this post 0 people 01/02/2015 00:23 @yallit I will buy  ads directly to PV and take the 3100 BAP and work for it to get my ROI + profit  But, emmanuel322 has a point too, Not everyone wants to click hmmm...   skorpious Traffic Value: $89.24332 Morocco 1 like this post 0 people 01/02/2015 00:29 nice idea broo up up!!!! yallit Traffic Value: $2,148.94717 Philippines 3 like this post 0 people 01/02/2015 00:33 @emmanuel322, those who only wants to buy advertising can opt for the Cheap Traffic. They will only have to pay $0.1 for 40 visits which is way cheaper than a 20% discount for the bulk ad you're going to offer (which provides only 50 visits). And if advertisers are after the Banner advertising instead, they can just buy a $1 bulk ad then select the additional options for increasing banner ad credits. paulinho09 Traffic Value: $43.91878 Romania 2 like this post 0 people 01/02/2015 00:41 It's basicly a good idea , but it needs more development to it .  For example :  1.If you want to sell your 50 views you have to sell the hole package , the banners too.  2.If you can't sell them in 3-5-7 days you have to put your own website to advertise ( what website you want )  3.When you sell them MTV/PV takes 5% of the sale . And so on , these are just a few ideas . Second problem . PV still sends more views to your ads than it should send . They first need to fix that .  This is all i could think of at the moment .  People will still buy adpacks only for the 3100 BAPs , if you don't do 25% profit from buying shares for $ and sell them for Bap it's basicly not worth on doing it .  And PS: don't get your hopes up , if this idea gets through , you will not able to sell those 50 views and banners for more than 0.05 max 0.08 . -paidverts- Traffic Value: $1,493.53912 United States 2 like this post 0 people 01/02/2015 00:45 If it is not broke why fix it just my thought. emmanuel322 Traffic Value: $40,205.23673 United States 1 like this post 0 people 01/02/2015 01:02 yallit you are still not getting the picture because you are stuck with the one in general example that I gave you... even at .01 cents you are still making a profit off what you bought (remember is locked to an account and nobody else can make use of it) and PV would make a percentage of whatever you sold it for. the cheap traffic thing could still be in place with the before mentioned rules to allow people to buy....and many other rules that can be implemented... paulinho09 Exactly... it needs way more thought to be implemented ...  I just put the gist of it here to see what people said about it .... Jo is good with taking ideas from scratch and implementing them. -paidverts- And if it is working overclock it to capitalize more. friend11 Traffic Value: $455.43947 Croatia (LOCAL Name: Hrvatska) 2 like this post 0 people 01/02/2015 01:39 The idea sounds good but it sounds good for us - the members. Maybe it's not good for the website.  The people selling the views wouldn't be interested in the advertising, so they would certainly sell their views very cheap to get money. Paidverts gets a piece of it but the seller gets the rest.  Many, many members would certainly sell ASAP. For any money they can potentially receive.  So when those who do want to advertise get pumped with billions of cheap ad views why would they then buy more advertising from the website since that's what they already have and they can't get it any time very cheap. The people who get the money would climb to their desired group much sooner or they would start cashing out much sooner than they otherwise would. Which means cashing out the websites funds much sooner, the ones that the website needs to have in possession for a while to create products that return value.  Otherwise they would have had to wait for their BAP to turn into cash which would certainly take longer. And this is ALSO something that is regulated by the admin daily for sustainability purposes.  Paidverts would get a percentage out of it BUT I fear rather that all of the ad purchase money really belongs to paidverts and now you are telling the website that through this member-to-member sale process it can get out of it "some of it".  This all sounds awesome for us, the members, but it might undermine the stability of the website. Why would they decide to add this ability since there is a good change it might make them lose their funds much more quickly? When, in fact, currently, they are trying to change things around to make the site more stable like raising ad purchase price or reducing referral commission.  If it was added, it would have to be regulated with many rules so that it doesn't undermine the stability of the site. You need many calculations out of this to see if it, in the end, gives good results to paidverts and, after that, gives this extra ability to the members. thatsme Traffic Value: $125.78449 India 1 like this post 0 people 01/02/2015 02:41 "this can also mean that your sell cap can be limited by whatever amount of credits you have bought meaning if you buy 1 dollar of ads ... you expect 155% from it .. if you sell your credits ...whatever you make can be put into that 155% cap.... so as to be a method of getting your return quicker ..." That means your making 55% proft without doing nothing .. If nobody here to view the ads then who will be ready to buy your credit??? JamesRo Traffic Value: $210.46293 Romania 1 like this post 0 people 01/02/2015 03:01 I think it would be messy, programmers have to rewrite the code, changes to database must be made (Now every user have his own campaign, but if you'll be able to sell visits then those visits must be transferred to another user... that users must be able to use those visits in a new section where he can create an campaign and set the max amouth of visits used,  and after the trade is made system must automatically reduce your number of visits undelivered from random active campaigns).  When you try to sell your remaining visits you compete with PV and PV will loose some money and take only a fee. What if the Fee for this transaction is 90%? I think it could be possible and could work. There are lot of users that don't neeed those visits and will be verry happy if they can make aditional money. Pv will take 90% and users only 10% It's better than nothing if you think you compete with PV and try to steal some money from its sellings. - those visits are already payed by the seller - PV will not create aditional BAP in the system - if advertiser need unique visits must buy Cheap Traffic directly from PV but if want extra cheap visits he can buy from resellers In case those isits are not delivered programmers must create aditional code that remember the initial price payed per visit and return only at that value JamesRo Traffic Value: $210.46293 Romania 0 like this post 0 people 01/02/2015 03:45 An users buy visits and receive a bonus worth of 3100 BAP, PV sell a product. When you buy a product using your own money this product belongs to you and you can do whatever you want with it. It's normal once you have a product to be able to make whatever you want. If you own a product: visits/shares... it's normal to be able to use it or sell it again. You are the owner so you are the only one who decide what do do with your product. PV should give you the chance to resell or destroy/delete your goods. Nobody say nothing if you buy a laptop and destroy it, it's yours. When an advertiser buy those visits from resellers PV will not give BAP. If you don't want to make use of your own visits/product and you want to sell it then you can sell it at the market. I think we need a market with bids. It will be full of cheap visits and this will attract advertisers willing to promote their products at the smallest price on the market. For every transaction PV/MTV will take 90% fee. I know it's huge but as I said there will be lots of users willing to make aditional proffit , users that don't need those visits and want to resell to make aditional money. They willtake 10% and PV 90%. A new source of income for PV/MTV that can be used for share dividents, or portfolio or dailly issue, or maybe 85% from the Fee can go to  PV and 5% to advertiser's upline. This will make proffitable for PV/MTV users to promote and bring here new advertisers that want only to advertise their own products very cheap and are not interested to take BAP. We alread have 80000 active users every day, imagine what if we use them to compete with others PTCs or other sites that sold cheap visits. I;m curious what do you think. What Jo said. It can be implemented or not? It's a good ideea or not?

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