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rajaconsult
Traffic Value: $11,069.20771 Germany
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20/06/2015 11:07
Hello @all,
Let me tell you about a little idea to solve the paypal-problem.
Paypal don’t like PV/MTV at the moment. But paypal like to work with shops.

Let us build a small shop for selling code-cards, similar to the codes for the prepaid-phones. The codes should have different values like 5, 10, 20 or 50$.

In PV/MTV we must have a small interface, where we can type in the code and his value will be added to the balance.

The shop must be separated from PV/MTV so that paypal can’t complain.
It could be a little bit smarter, if the shop is selling some small e-products (like white-label e-books etc. ). At that point the code is just a little give-away for the purchase.

The benefit for pv/mtv and all users is, that we can make a huge amount of fresh money via paypal without using paypal directly.

I will hope you like the idea.
Vixthra
Traffic Value: $2,179.00664 Slovenia
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20/06/2015 11:16
As current forum section is hardly appropriate for any serious idea discussion/evaluation, I am preety sure that we will require a seperated section to process ideas and suggestions. So, I prepared a very very raw and edgy draft of how I think it could look: smile

General positioning:


Due to the nature of the subsection, I think it should be put in one of the two marked sections.



Specific topic visuals:


A painter-made version of a specific topic, but I think you'll get the idea grin





Walkthrough by the points:

I.: A "category" picture, especially useful when scrolling through the sub-forum.
II.: General upvotes and downvotes.
III.: Idea title.
IV.: Idea mastermind.
V.: Time remaining: I was thinking every topic should have a time-frame for discussion; i.e. open for discussion for let's say 1 month, then it gets closed and waits for processing.
VI.: General notification after processing, if the idea was accepted or declined by administration. Bonus: All participating members are informed of the outcome (website notification or similar).
VII.: Pros & Cons: If commenting members make an input in pro/con box (XII. & XIII.) the comment is logged here in short. Each box displays only a few of each, comes with the "scroll up/down" option when moused over. Each pro/con input is clickeable; when clicked it takes you to the full reply on topic.
VIII.: Indicators on topic status: OPEN: open for 1 month discussion, CLOSED: discussion disabled, PROCESSING: the admins or whoever are discussing if the idea is suitable or no.
IX.: The posting member space for general text.
X.: The posting member space for idea explanation.
XI. Replying member general text box.
XII.:Replying member pros box: Adds further suggestions to the idea (NOT an upvote comment section!)
XIII.: Replying member cons box: Comments about flaws, fatal issues, etc. (NOT an downvote section!)

General sub-forum visuals:


I think and idea simmilar to the current "member control panel" should be sufficient, so I worked on that. 

Another painter-made draft of how I think it could look: grin



Walkthrough by the points:

I.: Section title
II.: Navigation tabs as in MCP.
III.: Similar to MCP.
IV.: Similar to MCP.
V.: Category icon.
VI.: Idea title.
VII.: Idea mastermind.
VIII.: Pro & con number overwiev.
IX.: Topic status: OPEN, CLOSED, PROCESSING.

*Topics continue as indicated by the empty frames.

PS: I just learned how to insert pictures! grin
ajantha001
Traffic Value: $157.86919 Sri Lanka
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20/06/2015 11:22
How about Starting "sport betting" on world main sport events. This will be help to make money on the outcome of a race, game, or other unpredictable events.
try8
Traffic Value: $4,008.85137 Romania
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20/06/2015 11:38
Dear Mr. Marc de Koning,
 
Here there are 3 proposals (ideas):
 
1. Clicks Buy-Back Project
 
An original, simple and efficient idea and also a win-win-win situation (win for the PV, win for the members who will participate in the project, win for companies who advertize on PV).
 
Details:
I will explain it by taking an example for one $1 Ad Pack and for one PV member.

A. The member of PV buys from PV one $1 Ad Pack, so he/she owns 50 clicks.
Because many members don’t have a real business to advertise for (the majority advertise for other “businesses” where they are members and most of that businesses turn into scams, or if they resist, then the respective members don’t obtain big conversions of their advertising efforts), they will be happy to sell (give) those 50 clicks back to PV, and PV will “buy-back” them at the half of the price so by paying $0.50 (but PV will not pay from its money, instead PV will act as an intermediary between the member and the external buyer, see below).
 
B. So far those 50 clicks from the example, are not consumed, they will be consumed soon (see below).
 
C. PV takes (buy-back) those 50 clicks from the member and sells them to external companies and entrepreneurs who want to make advertising at PaidVerts (the companies and entrepreneurs are not members of PV because they don’t have time to view ads twice per day because of expiring at 18 hours, so they will just buy the ads, they will buy those 50 clicks from PV with $1).
 
D. Then from that $1 paid by the external company or entrepreneur, PV shares with the respective PV member 50% so the member receives $0.50 and the PV/MTV company keeps $0.50.
 
You see:
* First PV sells one Ad Pack to the PV member for $1 so PV makes 1$ in revenue.
* Then PV sells (again) that Ad Pack (in fact only the 50 clicks) to the external company/entrepreneur, and makes an additional $0.50 in revenue.
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Total from those 50 clicks the PV makes $1.50 in revenues.
Total from those 50 clicks the PV member makes $1.47 (because he/she views other members ads for 30 seconds each) plus $0.50 (from the selling those 50 clicks to external company/entrepreneur), so a final sum of $1.97 per one Ad Pack.
* The external company/entrepreneur pays $1 for each 50 clicks.
So, it is a double selling but wit the approval of the members who are willing to participate to this project and give their 50 clicks back to the PV company.  


E. Technical implementation:
* Instead for the PV member to put his/her site/business in those 3 lines of text and the site address (in the site address box), the member will put the external company/entrepreneur’ site or business, for example, if the external company/entrepreneur would be a tourism company, he/she would put in the lines the texts:
> Make a trip to Hawaii at half of usual price!
> Enjoy the dream vacation!
> Bonus: if buy 3 places you receive one for free.
And the site advertised will be the external tourism company site.
* The PV programmers will put some lines of code for checking if the PV members who participate in the project have put in those 3 text boxes the correct text belonging to the external company/entrepreneur (this text will be offered by PV to each member who participate at the project).
 
Recap:
* The PV member buys one $1 Ad Pack but when he or she creates campaign will input in those 3 text boxes the text belonging to the advertised external company or entrepreneur, then he or she views the ads worth $1.47 (for consuming those 3100 BAP).
* The PV uses those 50 clicks for selling the advertising space to external companies and entrepreneurs.
* After the selling the PV supplies to PV member the data for being input in those 3 text boxes.
* The simple coded application automatically checks if the PV member has input the correct text and then the application validates his or her earning of $0.50 (which can be put in pending).
* When the PV receives the payment from the external company or entrepreneur (usualy after 1-2 months), the PV allocates the $0.50 to the respective PV member, and keep the $0.50 for the PV/MTV.   
 
In short:
The whole idea is like the member would find an external buyer for the 50 clicks and sells them to that buyer, but instead for the member to search by himself or herself for buyers (PV member has no experience and professionalism for that type of activity), the PV company will find buyers (because PV is a company and has resources to interact and negociate contracts with the external companies or entrepreneurs), sell them the ads, and then split the earnings with the PV member. 
 
2. An idea for solving (once and for ever) the non delivered ads:

A. Instead to view only one site at the time, we could view 2 sites at a time by splitting the window/tab.
B. Instead those 3 rows of text (which describe the site) you could put a table with 2 columns, in one to be 3 rows with the description of the site and in the other column to be 3 rows with the description of the other site.
When we click on the small icons/copy.png in the right then all the lines are checked.
C. Then when we click on the Proceed to Advertisers Website(s) button, the window for viewing those 2 sites will have both sites in the view of the members (the window is split in two sides, on the left side there is one site/ad and one the right side there is another site/ad), and one single captcha, and the same 30 seconds.
So, there is plenty of time (30 sec) for the user to see both sites/ads with one sight (and if he/she is interested will go to that site/ad).
D. Basically we save time and solve the non delivered ads once and for all.
E. The programmers can(?) make the code for this implementation.

If you implement this, then PV will be the first in the world which has such an innovation.
 
The below information could be useful for programmers to decide the complexity of work for impelemnting this innovation:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17624435/how-can-i-open-multiple-websites-in-the-same-window-same-tab-in-batch
 
3. Another idea: you should consider the Swiss Trust Company variant.

A Swiss Trust Company older than 25 years is like a Holding with maximum prestige and recognition all over the world.
You can have in a Swiss Trust all kind of financials: bank, brokerage, insurance, loans, credits, investments, credit & debit cards, cash, Stock Exchange listing, exempt from taxes, other offline businesses from all domains, etc.)
A Swiss Trust Company older than 25 years costs between EUR 100000 and EUR 300000.
It can be listed in Stock Exchange market in 2 months (in Frankfurt or Vienna).
It is very flexible.

Here it is a company specialized in Swiss Trust Companies:
http://www.fidelitytrust.ch/buying-a-swiss-trust-company.html

You should do a Geneva trip, then decide.
Because Swiss Trust is like a Holding you can add along the time any number of businesses in it.
   
 
spyrosnik26
Traffic Value: $1,490.37731 Greece
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20/06/2015 11:53
What about something like merchantshares? They invest funds on portfolio investments (stocks), forex, commodities and web ads. So far its going good. They are registered in Domenica (offshore country).
rismon1
Traffic Value: $1,077.07936 Canada
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20/06/2015 12:11
Bidding site  is profitable and like bidcash and zeekrewards and sfi mlm companies are offering returns on bid profits
Kasparas
Traffic Value: $291.18605 United Kingdom
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20/06/2015 13:40
I have a wild idea. Hire at least one proper Forex market trader. Create a new investment type called "Forex market investment plan" with a warning of a chance of a loss, because currency markets are untameable, as some of you know, and then let the trader use the account funded with money from the investment plan to work his magic and grow the profit by Forex trading.
vicura
Traffic Value: $4,969.3683 Spain
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20/06/2015 13:40
A possible way to get revenues could be hiring expert day traders or brokers to buy/sell shares on a real stock market. I don't know if it could be viable, but just a small idea. Or investing in the blue chips like Apple, Microsoft? 

We would get a low ROI, but could be a mid-term option...
Kasparas
Traffic Value: $291.18605 United Kingdom
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20/06/2015 13:43
@vicura


Good opinion, but in my personal view Forex > stock markets. Only because of fees and shorter trading hours in stock markets.
Crimson
Traffic Value: $1,850.32389 Romania
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20/06/2015 14:10
I didnt read users ideasgrin but what do you think about manual traffic exchange? I use it and milions of other people.Su ch a site shouldn't be so hard to set up and manage.And we could add features as we go.
RajuPujari
Traffic Value: $101.39149 India
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20/06/2015 14:45
Multiplayer Rummy could be a cool game and addictive game.It's quite strategy game.
artasg77
Traffic Value: $421.70387 Sweden
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20/06/2015 14:48
Idea,
To give bonus (BAP points) for users who give reports about the adult having ads or banners. You can take  these bonus BAP from adult ads advertisers.
Half to user half to portfolio.
Also good idea, about giving some bonus who reached for ex. 15000 ads, 20000 ads, 25000, and etc.
Users like to have some competition smile
Have a nice day
Gabriel83
Traffic Value: $63,951.00584 Germany
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20/06/2015 14:54
Hi there folks. Im a long yeared member of MTV too...also a beta as paidverts was just an idea...and here are my thoughts about what we could/should do next to make this business legal and sustainable:

1) close all investment plans (as this will always look like any other hyip to legal organisations) and pay them out with fees and returns from games and paidverts

2) at mtv only move forward with the shares where there is 1 big share pool where ppl can purchase shares from if they want to participate in the development of mtv/pv...and sell their shares if they do not see their personal chance or need money TO the pool. There should be limits regarding the total amount of shares and the shares to purchase in a specified timeframe (this will prevent big global players to purchase all....so that also a small participant will have a chance)

3) make sure to legalize all documents for all mentioned and used payment processors

4) get away from this futurenet company which was registered from the last owner(s) so that there is a completely new company behind the new leadership and ongoing projects

5) re-finde the games with a bankroll and fair statements

The most problem i see is...a very true and relative crowd-funding platform...like the name says...the crowd funds something they are interested in...and as the whole funds which are invested until now were going to mtv itself...i would remove this crowdfunding related things.

Jo said sometimes that he wants to have this crowdfunding related topic advanced that way that ppl could insert their own projects to be crowdfunded. Who will be the next with fake details to get some "crowdfunding"? Let me think about who manipulated the shares market like the "deutsche bank" did it with the libor index....i dont say names i have on my mind...make your own calculation....

Thats why i think non-voting shares of the company which should be a new behind this all...to participate in the whole own development and success of all further coming projects from this company.

Thanks for all your attention...have a nice weekend!

Gabe
lemao08
Traffic Value: $169.03014 Brazil
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20/06/2015 15:04
What about exchange the BAP Games profit as 3100baps/1$ and add it to Daily Ad Issues? Sorry if it was a bad ideia :v
EthanCruise
Traffic Value: $82,499.10416 Italy
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20/06/2015 15:14
I don't know if this idea has already been proposed, but I'd like to publish it here.

I was looking at results some days ago and I noticed that all the games MTV produced until now have a common thing : luck .
Because of the luck, not everyone wants to play, it's too risky.
And for the business it's not said that everyday the game results ( on daily results ) are positive. 

Let's go to the point: my idea is to create multiplayer games where all MTV users can play through an interface between two users, and a bet. 
These kind of games requires ability, intellingence, skills. No luck.

The easiest example for me in this kind of games would be : the checkers, chess and many others.

Example:
User 1 bet 5$ , User 2 accepts the game and they start to play.
User 2 wins and he gets back his 5 $ + 5$ of the loser user .
MTV earns a percentage like 5% on the total bet ( on 10$ = 0,50 $ )
So User 2 receives 9,50$ and MTV earns 0,50$ .

What kind of advantages can these games bring?

There is no luck here, you need to think with your head, also these games can involve a bigger amount of players, these games are more interesting than the luck games.
What's the biggest advantage? Here is no way for MTV to get negative revenues on this kind of games.

That's all wink  
Arkassus
Traffic Value: $372.43143 Poland
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20/06/2015 15:24
Chess can be not fair because of software. For example chessmaster on another PC. BTW Poker needs some skill too tongue
swiler
Traffic Value: $584.89073 Canada
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20/06/2015 15:37
Wouldn't it be great if, once PV & MTV gets back in full stride, we could have a weekend conference where members could meet each other, and administration, to discuss business affairs and just have fun. Would be great for morale, and we could finally put a face on what is now just names and numbers. Perhaps limit it to those with 10,000+ shares. To lessen travel expenses, there could be one in Asia, one in Europe, and one in North America yearly. It would also be an incentive for members to increase their amount of shares. 
RomRud
Traffic Value: $746.86892 Ukraine
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20/06/2015 15:39
I propose to make our cryptocurrency eg MTV-coin with so many users, we have quickly become the best cryptocurrency! first in the world
ranajavaid
Traffic Value: $12.14368 Pakistan
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20/06/2015 15:41
someone here posted about having new products and real assets and invsetments too ,something about investing in egypt cause of low fees and a conference , here

https://www.mytrafficvalue.com/forum/brainstorm/invest_in_egypt_new_products_real_assets/1.html#p268853
RoTho
Traffic Value: $4,712.55964 Netherlands
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20/06/2015 15:45
I still have a lot of game ideas ready. 
But I am waiting for a platform to roll out so I can sell them to MTV.

I think its smart to make a dedicated gambling site, based in Malta or Cyprus. Or form an agreement with an existing one. Create traffic for that site via Neteller and ads. And use payment options like Neteller, Bitcoin and Creditcard. The problem now with gambling on this site is that there is not that much fresh money coming in. Its just 'old' money going around. Games for the new site can be the ones we have on MTV right now and in addition use games users came up with. The business model as discussed by Slo was fine for that.

When Paidverts or a new version of it comes up to speed it will also create income. For me as an outsider its a bit strange to drop PV and make a new version because of the investment it will take. Paidverts has a reputation and the dept swaps did not do it good ( keeping in mind not every user of PV reads the news) but it seems a waste of resources to just drop it. Maybe re-brand it, sure but not rebuild it completely. Furthermore we have more then a million members right now. When I signed up there were around 500.000. MTV is growing and so is its potential.

Lastly maybe start a deal with YouTube to display ads and give viewers money for it. But let MTV be the middle man to get a percentage. The time I spend on this site showed me the willingness of people to invest time to get literately cents in return. If they can watch YouTube shows or video ads for money and you can show a site like YouTube you have a million possible viewers the deal might not be so far-fetched. 

This is my vision.
Fijne avond wink
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