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Jo Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain 4 like this post 0 people 18/06/2014 09:56 This is an open question more than anything... What are the most popular hyip plans at the moment? What are people responding to the most do you think? 1% daily? 2% daily? 10% daily? Cyclers? ... What's the latest? Let's see if we can't develop something based around what people want; but in a workable manner! What's needed to get people throwing in as much money as they possibly can? What's the incentive they're looking for? arslan75 Traffic Value: $84,466.07763 Pakistan 3 like this post 0 people 18/06/2014 10:11 if u offer more than 2% than mostly people sure think it is scam try to set a plan in which u pay variable daily minmum 1% and max 3% in this way more people sure will be intrested to invest in plan  slosumo - Administrator Traffic Value: $28,438.4426 Slovenia 2 like this post 0 people 18/06/2014 10:13 The most money people throw in are the 1-3% plans because many such programs were known to last for years (such as JBP, for example). Threads on forums like MMG always get most attention to these kinds of program because people believe they are "sustainable". cyclers, 10%, etc. also get good amounts of money thrown in, but it seems that the 1-3% are the most trusted ones and people throw even 1k$+ in them, wheres in plans with bigger returns they rather play with less money. I think it's because people like simplicity and don't want to study other, better plans. Although "hybrid"/"PTA" programs seem to be gaining on popularity lately. Many of them are still HYIPs , paying daily %, only difference being that by investing here, you're actually buying advertisement... It's the way programs were able to accept PPs like Payza in the last two years. Then you've got tons of hybrids that are a mix of cycler, hyip and matrices.  I know you're looking for a way for people to start investing here, but do you really think we should pursue such a path, lets say even if the plan we'd come up in the end wouldn't be a HYIP (but would just resemble one to attract online investors) and would be sustainable by MTV's standards, I mean weren't we trying to create an image that is not related to HYIPs etc. It's why the daily payments were removed etc. inditech Traffic Value: $13,962.16825 Australia 2 like this post 0 people 18/06/2014 11:03 what about the EF...? Jo Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain 3 like this post 0 people 18/06/2014 11:33 I'm not talking about making an unsustainable ponzi... I'm just interested in the numbers and structures that people respond to. With PaidVerts, i'm thinking of something like this; $1 ad packs... - Give you 2320 BAP - Issue the purchaser 1 * 2% value ad daily for 28days. - Plus you get the regular daily ad issues, to consume the remainder of the BAP. Thereby, you get 56% of your investment back over 28days. And the other 60% is paid via random issues like now. Thereby, you could potentially get 110% back in about 1 month pretty much via fixed daily payments. With the second part being random. - 10% Referrals - 10% MTV - 56% Instant Payments - 24% Re-Invested ------- Or... How about this more complete idea: $1 ad packs... give you 2720 BAP 5% Referrals 5% MTV 49% Instant Payments (1.75% x 28days) 35% Re-Invested (x2.5 = 87%) 1% automatically creates 5 * 0.002 ads issued at random 5% creates 5 x 1% ads issued at random, to "Super Users" 49+87% = 136% ROI (129.20% after ad click refs) And that could happen within a month pretty much. As users "know" they'll get half their money back in the first month. Plus whatever random ad issues they normally get - as a result of having the BAP. ** And such a plan, also helps towards our debt reduction; as 6% of every purchase is over-accounted for. So that will go towards paying free users etc. ------ What do you think? This is no different than the regular PV structure... but it gives users that "fixed rate of return" they want. Without locking us into something that's utterly unsustainable. And this also encourages BIG investors... As if you invest $10k... you know, you're getting $4900 worth of ads in the next 28days. Plus you're getting huge BAP; and that'll give you the big ad issues for the other half of your return. FIXED + VARIABLE. All in one. arslan75 Traffic Value: $84,466.07763 Pakistan 0 like this post 0 people 18/06/2014 11:44 i think first plan is great  - Give you 2320 BAP slosumo - Administrator Traffic Value: $28,438.4426 Slovenia 0 like this post 0 people 18/06/2014 11:44 Well that could work. But would PayPal be ok with this? I mean the advertising you'd get from this would probably be the same and the basic concept is the same, but how would you disguise it in PV? Obviously you couldn't just write the plan details when a user buys the ad packs (like there's no mention of how the 1$ gets distributed anywhere on the PaidVerts site for the current ad packs), so how would you present this second option to our users without risking more problems with PP(even though the concept is the same)? Edit: The second plan looks great. Perhaps another variation would be to pay 28x2% daily ( 2% would look simple and what people are used to), but then the total ROI would be reduced to 119%.  But it would pretty much "guarantee" breakeven in 1 month. QuilhosKing Traffic Value: $6,128.74944 Portugal 3 like this post 0 people 18/06/2014 11:52 Well, imo, that would not be interesting at all. People wan't fast return and waiting 28 days it's bad. But I think I don't understand the idea to well. We buy an AD pack and we receive BAP. But, what you mean with 1.75% x 28 days? We receive only that amount of ads? If we look at now, we invest 1.00$ and receive 1.55$ in no time. Even the lowest groups can achive that in 1 week or 2.  Don't forget we have few members. When Paidverts start growing, the free users will be the majority part of the profit. You don't wan't to kick them out. And again, I think I didn't understand what you said. Jo Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain 0 like this post 0 people 18/06/2014 11:54 We do it the same like the Bulk Ads... Buy 1 ad packs... - ___ Visits to your website for 30seconds - ___ Banner Impressions 125 - ___ Banneer Impressions 728 + 2__ BAP ---- In fact the Bulk Ads plan already works like this. It pays 1% daily for 10days after you buy an ad pack. Then all the rest is random. Users don't even need to know... They just buy the ads, and see these amazing ads appearing. And they'll keep appearing until all their BAP is consumed like now. slosumo - Administrator Traffic Value: $28,438.4426 Slovenia 0 like this post 0 people 18/06/2014 11:59 But if users don't know then why would they buy these other type of ads if seemingly, they are the same  If they see that the original bulk ads give you 3100 BAP and these new ads would give 2xxx BAP then of course most would buy the first option, without knowing how it works in the background. Now of course, people who follow the news would know the difference (and are also probably behind the majority of ad purchases), but what about the rest? So this would basically be a better, "hidden", ad purchase option. Jo Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain 1 like this post 0 people 18/06/2014 12:19 I like the idea of a secret... A bit of knowledge people aquire via word of mouth, and not right away! And maybe we can differentiate the ad pack design... turn it into $10 ad packs. That give more visits to your website per dollar than the bulk ads. Maybe skip on the banner impressions. Or I was thinking, have an ad view process that requires 2 "Confirm" clicks. View the ad for 15 seconds, click Confirm... then view the ad for another 15 seconds. Click confirm again. Forces exposure... And advertisers seemingly pay a premium for that feature. (Or maybe save that as a targeted ads option) Or a "Tour Ads" option... show users one page for __ seconds; then show them another page for ___ seconds. That way you can guide them through multiple points of your website. Darknit Traffic Value: $3,211.07643 Sri Lanka 1 like this post 6 people 18/06/2014 12:51 second plan is more promising than the first ofc. But I'd rather like MTV to start a new investment fund which would involve in Forex dealings & offer something like 3-5% daily to the investors, Its the current trend in the World of Investments & I think you can find better Forex dealers (not brokers) if your offer better commission rates to work for you. web30man Traffic Value: $161.87766 United States 5 like this post 0 people 18/06/2014 14:01 Jo, you should do things that you stated in a reasonable time period. It seems like the coming soon cheap and premium ads are never going to come. We have been waiting for the super user option for a good while now. Then when I make a suggestion about putting the 125x125 banner ads on the very front page of Paidverts for non users to see, you then ignore my post and do not do it. So please do whats in the best interest of the members here and not just what you think will make you the most money. I do not like it when you state freebie users either, they are important as paying members. Lastly, please make sure you maintain integrity. Thanks and jesus is blessing us, amen. slosumo - Administrator Traffic Value: $28,438.4426 Slovenia 1 like this post 1 people 18/06/2014 14:22 @webman These are just ideas Jo is thinking of implementing in the future. It doesn't interrupt the current programming queue at all. dbinghamjr Traffic Value: $68.52568 United States 1 like this post 3 people 18/06/2014 14:26 @web30man, If you want things done faster, invest... Jo is doing the best he can with 2 part-time programmers. The super user upgrade is coming when it gets made. Other features will follow. hrjustinptc - Forum moderator Traffic Value: $8,376.82638 United States 0 like this post 0 people 18/06/2014 15:30 I think that a banners only adpack that provides BAP would be a huge benefit. There are pros and cons but I will just just play on your second example.  $1 ad packs... give you 2720 BAP 2k banner impressions per day of both 125x125 and 728x90 10% Referrals 10% MTV 45% Instant Payments (1.60% x 28days) (repaid to balance daily after the 2k impressions have been delivered.) 35% Re-Invested (x2.5 = 87%) I dunno probably a bad idea I was just thinking this would provide the daily results you are looking for. Plus in turn it would do it without adding huge amounts of ads to deliver. Banner impressions are consumed much quicker and use less resources. If you are set on absolutely requiring a click to earn any cash you could just issue one banner repayment ad for 28 days. Or maybe just require clicking a banner per day for each ad pack. I don't really like the idea of artificially inflating click through rate of banners however but at least its an option. There could be one click worth 1.60% for each banner ad pack purchased for the 28 days. The rest would come through other ads like normal. The Bulk Ad pack works well already. A banner pack would be different enough to attract a different type of advertiser.  Brainy Traffic Value: $1,095,877.628 Canada 18 like this post 0 people 18/06/2014 18:35 I prefer that PaidVerts distances itself from HYIP world. Daily fixed return is not a good idea in my opinion. As another member said, processors like Paypal could be a lot more skeptical about the legitimacy of the business with fixed return. People would also be. I think the current plan is perfect with the 155% return with no fixed results. No guarantee of any return. You purchase ads and the returns with BAP are bonus. Furthermore, the most important thing, why would you punish sponsors with the second plan? You want to increase the number of active members with these plans, and we know that the sponsors are the ones who bring the most members. So why would you punish the sponsors by cutting by half their commissions? It's contradictory. Clicks already give only 5%, so the promoters rely on the adpacks purchases. With the current 10% refcom on adpacks, I invest in external sites to get referrals and be in profits in the long term. But with only 5%, why would I work my ass off to be punished haha. Please don't cut the referral commissions, it would be underproductive slosumo - Administrator Traffic Value: $28,438.4426 Slovenia 0 like this post 0 people 18/06/2014 20:06 Actually the ref commissions currently are huge IMO, just not if you refer free PTC clickers. For comparison, on usual PTCs you get up to 4 cents/ref/day, here you need someone with 50-100k BAP to get that kinds of commission per day.  I wouldn't actually mind the ref comm being "only" 5% for ad packs for the new plan, but guess it's just me, I'm not a greedy sponsor Jo Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain 1 like this post 0 people 18/06/2014 20:17 Referral commission is enourmous with PaidVerts... Bulk ads = 10% of purchase price. Plus 7.75% of the purchase price in the subsequent clicks. The above idea = 5% of purchase. Plus 6.8% of the purchase price in subsequent clicks. Brainy Traffic Value: $1,095,877.628 Canada 2 like this post 0 people 18/06/2014 20:19 It's maybe because most of my refs are free users. If it was 5% at the moment, I would not invest eslewehere to advertise. I should ROI my current investments in several months even if my conversion rate is very good. That's why I think that cutting refcom by half could discourage advertisers. But it's my opinion. Of course, if you bring big investors you'll get massive commisions. If you think that cutting referral commissions and put a fixed daily return will bring more members, it's your pick. I think it would be very bad.

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