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Bortoff Traffic Value: $314.44564 Japan 1 like this post 2 people 13/12/2014 02:21 no you didnt . you just moan and groan when anyone asks questions about a system .  you should just speak when spoken to . if you have thoughtful input say it . stop crying like a little baby . MeagoDK Traffic Value: $2,697.0796 Denmark 1 like this post 0 people 13/12/2014 02:23 Yes he has a point and it is something we can and shall talk about but not the way he does it!  mriley Traffic Value: $45,656.25089 United States 1 like this post 1 people 13/12/2014 02:27 What I'm saying is the system has been "out there" for months, and in the case of "MTV" years. So what don't you get? Yes it's hard to explain, Jo is "mad scientist" with numbers, in fact I don't know he comes up with this shit...but it seems to be working, so until it doesn't I wouldn't worry about it. Or do. I don't care either way.  You are free to start being a nervous wreck... Bortoff Traffic Value: $314.44564 Japan 1 like this post 4 people 13/12/2014 02:34 yeah over 2.5m in debt yup its good .  so what is going to be the sites debt cap ? yallit Traffic Value: $2,148.94717 Philippines 0 like this post 0 people 13/12/2014 02:35 True, the site is giving out POTENTIAL 55% interest via the BAP system. But we'll only get cash if we're able to view Paid ads. I have posted in the first page how PV manage to provide Paid ads. So if none of those are happening, then there would be less/no paid ads to click. jemm2008 Traffic Value: $208.44041 Venezuela 1 like this post 0 people 13/12/2014 02:58 hi all, just want to say something about shares an actual and older price. one week ago the price per share was 0,43 more so. then happen the split, so 10 actual shares are iqual to one share a week ago. so 10 actual shares at 0,059 each iqual to 0,59 of a share a week ago, so the price per share isn't drop, instead it has rose more than 30% last 4-6 days. Think about it. and thank for your attention. p.s. I only own 7 actual shares paloma_u Traffic Value: $244.94947 Honduras 6 like this post 0 people 13/12/2014 06:17 Bortoff I think we need to make a distintion here: In every business there are 2 kind of debts, one is good debt, like the one you loan from the bank to start your business and you pay back. Then there's the bad kind of debt, like when you have a business with bigger overhead than sales and you don't cut costs down. In the past, the BAP milestones were putting bad unsustainable debt on the system and it was growing, that's why they were removed in July or August. That debt, which was huge, was completely cleared by end of October or beginning of November, so now the system is healthy and you've got all growth coming. That 2.5 million debt you talk about, is debt that comes mostly from the investments in FT 186% and 250% plans. Every week you can see there were 200k or more invested in those plans. That is a good kind of debt, because the money invested on said plans is used to develop new portfolio products (like the coming multiplayer poker or in its time Paidverts) that generate earnings for repaying the investors later and keep the system moving. PV/MTV is NOT generating debt that cannot be repaid, which is what I think drives your questions. So far as I understand things PV/MTV  is all sustainable. And all the numbers are visible out there, you can check the reports and sit down and do your math.  PS: I think you can ask your questions in a more assertive and articulate way. That may make people be more interested in answering them rather than wanting to fight you.  missi Traffic Value: $12,691.63746 Australia 5 like this post 1 people 13/12/2014 06:56 I agree with your PS paloma-U ... the whole reason I will never step in and try to offer anything to this rude individual. and bortoff you can give me that "dont speak until Im spoken to" line all you like ... in fact you can go shove that advice in your pipe and smoke it .. or you could do us a favour and take that advice yourself.  paloma_u Traffic Value: $244.94947 Honduras 0 like this post 0 people 13/12/2014 07:02 Missy, your traffic value... it shows that your FT 250% are fasttracking to the Moon!  missi Traffic Value: $12,691.63746 Australia 2 like this post 1 people 13/12/2014 07:05 I feel like Im being fast tracked to the moon  ...  hmmm now theres a random thought wonder if MTV can get my ticket on a flight into space hehehe inditech Traffic Value: $13,962.16825 Australia 1 like this post 0 people 13/12/2014 07:08 Ok, well, the fact is at anyone point in time, we don't need to pay everyone 55% net profit...as long as people keep joining their respective BAP group, we can continue paying everyone. It works for PAYPAL; so why argue! I remember this discussion when PaidVerts was first created..it's simply a revenue sharing PTC. tjtan0929 Traffic Value: $203,540.80977 Malaysia 0 like this post 1 people 13/12/2014 15:31 more debts mean we're getting more stronger and huge so we're creating more revenue and scaling to the bigger business this is how MTV works Bortoff Traffic Value: $314.44564 Japan 0 like this post 0 people 13/12/2014 16:24 @missi what the lines means is if you dont have advice then dont say anything .   SToP being rude missi and go cry a river somewhere else . jure25 Traffic Value: $1,779.68609 Croatia (LOCAL Name: Hrvatska) 2 like this post 0 people 13/12/2014 16:36 It will come to one point that revenues are going to be that much big that debt actually shouldnt be big issue. Bortoff Traffic Value: $314.44564 Japan 1 like this post 0 people 13/12/2014 16:40 i hope so .   its possible canton Traffic Value: $345.7528 Canada 2 like this post 2 people 13/12/2014 16:50 My philosophy is this... as long as it makes money, I DON'T CARE! I am not into hour long rhetorics. I used to take my time to explain prospects how Amway works, how money is made but I found out the more I was telling them, the more questions they had until it all became a sea of confusion. I ended up confused and they ended up going further and further. So, after many years, I decided to change the strategy. Cut it short! 5 minutes! You tell your prospects what you do and that the company is well established and paying without any issues. If they ask you more questions, you invite them to learn. And if they resist or give you an attitude problem or ask "but I have to know now" then.... SORRY! YOU'VE JUST BEEN FLUSHED OUT! NEXT! I don't have time for this! There is money to be made, there is money made and that's it! It's simple! If you have a problem with the simplicity of it then it's not for you! PERIOD! HELLASion Traffic Value: $150.69194 Greece 0 like this post 0 people 13/12/2014 17:06 Well, although I'm a new member, I can think of an explanation for the coverage of the phenomenal debt created. Think how ?anks operate. They use our money from our long-term deposits for which we have signed a contract that will keep them closed for some time. Therefore we take interest. So here, the operators of the sites, use our investments in such a way as to cover the debt of the previous day and to create products that bring back money. Also do not forget gambling, which logically Joe operates to cover the holes. Every day we spend thousands of points gambling. So generally there is a continuous flow of money and this is why there is no real debt. To create a problem we should all be doing massive withdrawals, something that none of us would like to be ...! This is my personal opinion ..! paloma_u Traffic Value: $244.94947 Honduras 0 like this post 0 people 13/12/2014 17:24 HELLASion In time to time, Jo publishes in his FB screenshots of the liquid assets (payment processors balances) and tells the balances in the daily news. You should check those more. The system is sitting on a pile of cash now. It can stand a withdrawal run way way better than a bank.  Jo Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain 13 like this post 0 people 13/12/2014 17:45 PV Sustainability: $1.55 debt... - $0.10 instant ad contributions - $0.10 super user 1% ads - $0.10 purchaser 1% ads ============ $1.25 actual debt ============ For which we invest $0.50 at MTV to return 2.5x... 50 x 2.5 = $1.25 Then we have additional debt reductors, that more than compensate for the free BAP we give away each day; - Recycles - Games - Cheap Traffic Ads - BAP Tax So actually, PV should end up with more money than it needs as its MTV investments mature. And/or, it doesn't require all of its MTV investments to mature as it'll end up with more than enough money to pay people anyway. MTV Sustainability FT250... $250 debt - $15 instant results ====================== $2.35 actual debt ====================== For which we invest $0.65 into the development of our portfolio. Thereby the products we add to that portfolio need to return an average 3.6x their development costs over their entire lifetime in order to repay every single investor. No time limit. And also there's no cap on their potential earnings... So some products will over-perform to compensate for any that underperform. ----------------------------------- So it's two separate processes that are interlinked... This is not a ponzi, as the last people can be paid. But at the same time, if we get growth and a booming economy - everything works faster and revenues are generated more quickly. Which lead to bigger / faster results / ad issues... As our system is designed to save individuals time where possible. ** This will all become more clear when we add other subsidiary businesses to the portfolio. Like physical businesses, bars, restaurants, hairdressing salons, that cost a fixed amount to setup. And then provide a stream of cash thereafter... But we can't invest in those from day one, as they're capital intensive & their repayment times are very slow. So we need an established portfolio first; before we can committ to longer term investments without impacting the turnaround times of the fast track queue... but it's all to come! But rather than invest in a company / business and wait 5years for your ROI. You invest in our pre-established communal portfolio. That helps repay you; whilst your particular investment is utilized and generates the necessary ROI. (And also provides you a safety net in case your specific product doesn't generate the required ROI) ------------------ And finally... We have our ultimate safety net! Debt Swaps! ... If all goes to hell, system stalls, portfolio products fail to deliver. We can basically reset the system and try again! -- Swapping all the debt for shares. And then the system is EMPTY. But our portfolio remains. Thereby any new investors are going to be off to an incredible start; as they've got millions of dollars worth of portfolio working to repay them. And even if those products aren't performing to their original requirements; they're still performing. And are now bonus to a whole new set of products that new investments are funding, that have their own chance at success. So, the system is bullet proof as far as I can see. 100% failure isn't really possible; we can lose all our cash assets; debt swap and be back in business in a heartbeat... And every time we do that, we're not just trying again, we're trying again from a stronger position than we've ever had before. So every "failure" makes us better. We use the crowd to save time & defer risk, and it works! The only question is how well / how fast, and that's up to the users. If they use the system more; we'll do ever grander things. Bortoff Traffic Value: $314.44564 Japan 2 like this post 0 people 13/12/2014 17:58 makes sense thanks Jo .

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