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rtrplay
Traffic Value: $65,453.30658 Sweden
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21/07/2014 22:56
as i mention earlier on a answer to "saturday post" instead of giving all ads to all users at the same time we should get them at our timezones,

i speak for all users that have jobs and cannot do 150 ads(this with upgrades) when we are at jobs,

i don't think many other have a chief working in here or have we and they would not be glad if we do this job instead...some has the fortune working with internet but not all users have this and that's why is so important if we want those users stay active

this is a second income for most users so we must let them have a change to be active and we cannot control the time we can spend on PV when we don't know the time of ad issue

hope more feels that way because we all want PV to succeed but currently this is some of the  limits that no other PTC has
Belzebu
Traffic Value: $257.38666 Spain
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21/07/2014 23:09
Today again, we get nothing? 
and what is the reason this time? 
because I do not understand why we do not receive anything in 2 days followed
polo26
Traffic Value: $2,211.17614 France
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21/07/2014 23:15
I do not know if we have our ads today 
but programmers have added the new homepagewink
Jo
Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain
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21/07/2014 23:15
We'll do a big ad issue tomorrow...
There's only 45minutes until the new server day. And there's still 50k ads queued up in the cron. We need to find a way to speed that up.

We have to do low BAP groups up to large groups, otherwise people will be issued ads twice. As the ad issue knocks them down a group, then they get issued for the second group also... The ordering isn't usually an issue though. Today is an exception.

Anyway, day done for me!
Continue tomorrow wink
QuilhosKing
Traffic Value: $6,128.74944 Portugal
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21/07/2014 23:23
BTW Jo, I remember a site (Just Been Paid) who have some issues because the number of members.

And Paidverts are remembering me of that. You are issuing ads and soon they will take all the day. I think in that site the issues are from matrix placements and they took about 2 days or something like that, but not entirely sure. Just have sure in the time they took to distribute.

Paidverts will converge to a thing like that in no time. Members will continue increase. Better try to optimize the system before do more changes.

And if there people who have invested in JBP, they know what I'm talking about smile
joe31800
Traffic Value: $6,016.01548 United States
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21/07/2014 23:48
Yeah, we definitely need to be more consistent here.

I, like many, have a strategy, a plan, a goal...

When I go 2 whole server days with only a hand full of penny ads (360k-720k BAP group) its just not cutting it. Then tomorrow, with a "huge" ad issue, i will need to camp in front of my computer for 2 hours just to catch up. We are kind of all over the place.

Now that i have built up my BAP to a decent level, I am beginning to invest in the plans, but I am already falling behind. 

And when no ads are issued, the daily result suffers, which extends the Fast Track Queue time, which means less dollars to turn over and reinvest or buy more ads...etc  etc.

If we really want to go to the next level and become a big player in this game, we need a product that people can count on.
poorkie
Traffic Value: $189,554.19536 United States
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21/07/2014 23:52
PaidVerts has a bid for 75,000 shares @ $0.075/share if anyone is looking to sell: http://www.mytrafficvalue.com/shareholders.html



Jo, I know that you have every right to bid on cheap shares, but ultimately, this is driving the price down...One of the biggest factors for the quick increase in stock price was that PV was buying up large amount of shares, but now that PV is bidding below, the stock price stopped going up. 

So let me ask you a question, when PV lists it shares for sell, are you (PV) going to underbid like you are currently doing or buy the PV shares?  I think you had a great formula before the bidding process was added back.  I think you really need to look at buying from the listed shares again, I think in the long run, it is a better plan.  In the short term, you may get 75,000 shares for cheap, but the stock price is going to move very slowly, or continue to go down. 

Maybe you can at least look into bidding on 50% and buying 50% of the listed?

You had the perfect scenario, why the change?  If PV keeps buying up listed shares, the price will always go up, and when the price gets too high, split....increase, split, increase, etc...repeat!  And this will entice long holding shareholders to keep holding onto their shares so that they do not miss a split. 
inditech
Traffic Value: $13,962.16825 Australia
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22/07/2014 01:14
I think that is for major shareholders.....if you are interested....
slosumo - Administrator
Traffic Value: $28,438.4426 Slovenia
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22/07/2014 05:40
Guys stop whining if there is 1,2,or even 3 days without ads... Nothing is lost here, the money reserved for those ads will simply stock and there will be one big issue eventually. Basically you will have to click 2-3times less to receive the same value of ads because the ads will be bigger, so it's faster & easier for everyone. Stop complaining so much.
joe31800
Traffic Value: $6,016.01548 United States
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22/07/2014 07:11
@slosumo

You're missing the point. This is not whining, its pointing out a flaw that is costing us members and referral dollars.

As an example, if you went to the new steakhouse in the neighborhood, and they were out of steak, you would be disappointed, but you might try them again. 
Then a couple days later you went back, but service was very slow because they did not hire enough people. Now you're starting to wonder if these people know how to run a restaurant, but maybe you'll give them ONE more try. So the next weekend, you go back AGAIN and order a steak. When it comes out to your table, its really small and over cooked. You ask to speak to the manager, and you wait, and wait, and wait. Then he sends out a server with a bunch of excuses. You wouldn't go back, would you?

That is what I am afraid is happening here with our new members. I am spending alot of money and effort recruiting new members. I think only about 10% stay active for more than a week though. They are not getting the ads that are being promoted and they sour on our program quickly.

I have been with MTV for over 2 years and I know how this works. I think Jo did a great job with MTV and I supported him through all the ups and downs. I am patient, but am becoming frustrated with the first or early impression we are making on new members. 

If they login and get no ads for a day or two, are they coming back?? You and I know that it will be made up in the next day or two, but the newbies don't. Heck, read the forums. They all panic, and many of them leave, and worse yet, they bad mouth us on other sites and forums.

I know this is a great program run by a great guy. I would do anything I could to help Jo make this a success. Unfortunately our growth is being seriously affected by the site being inconsistent right now. That is all I was trying to say. If you say people will get ads every afternoon, they need to get ads every afternoon. If they are supposed to get about 2 or 3 dollars worth of ads each day, they shouldn't get 5 or 10 cents worth, etc. That's not how you grow a business. 

I'm in it for the long haul, and I see the value in having a large amount of active referrals clicking, buying ads, and investing. I just feel that lately I'm swimming upstream in regards to referrals and personal income goals.

I stopped using alot of other sites because of various reasons. I just don't ever want to lose members here for the same reasons.
hrjustinptc - Forum moderator
Traffic Value: $8,376.82638 United States
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22/07/2014 07:19
I disagree with the post about PaidVerts buying shares through bids. I think it is best for PaidVerts to buy up shares while they are super cheap. If people are willing to sell their shares at the price PaidVerts is bidding that is awesome. The entire key to the market is getting shareholders to list their shares higher. Driving the price down on shares just makes it that much better. Those who are smart enough to not list or sell at such a low price will gain in the long run. 

I would also like the see ads daily but like Slosumo pointed out its not a huge problem. Not getting ads does cause a small delay in being able to repurchase. Even that is not really a problem unless you are right near the next highest BAP group. It doesn't matter when someone is in the middle of the 720k-1.5mill group. It is a nice break sometimes having less ads to click. It is usually human nature to point out the negative over the positive aspects of anything lol. 
cashin
Traffic Value: $2,293.16914 Netherlands
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22/07/2014 07:33
@joe31800 Could not agree more with your post! Right on the head grin
hrjustinptc - Forum moderator
Traffic Value: $8,376.82638 United States
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22/07/2014 07:36
@joe31800


I agree with everything in your post and all of these issues are making horrible first impressions. Most of us that read all of the posts know what is really happening. Like you say though as soon as a newbie sees something they don't like they move on. Number one priority should be anything to do with main site operations Site Stability, Deposit Delays, Ad Issues, and then Cashout times but that is pretty much caught up. 


I think Jo and the programmers are doing a great job with the funding they have so far. I can completely understand just barely having enough money to do everything as fast as desired. All we can do in the meantime is reassure new members. Make them want to stay informed of the latest news on here on their own like the rest of us. I am extremely disappointed how inactive this forum is to be honest. The only time newer members post or read anything is when there is an issue. I hope with the MTV redesign it will easier for new members to find and interact on the forums in a more positive manner. 
rtrplay
Traffic Value: $65,453.30658 Sweden
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22/07/2014 07:40
as i pointed out in a earlier post and everyone even @Jo is missing to read, it's not a huge problem for us that can sit all day and check, but some have a job and a chief that dosen't like checking for ads....

i don't think many other have a chief working in here or have we and they would not be glad if we do this job instead...some has the fortune working with internet but not all users have this and that's why is so important if we want those users stay active

it's a huge problem for those that have not and are regular PTC, when we don't know when we have the ads, when some are coming home from work they want to sleep and then we go to work in the morning thats not working clicking ads at all some times when we get all ads late

this is a second income for most users so we must let them have a change to be active and we cannot control the time we can spend on PV when we don't know the time of ad issue and they will stop using this site as some have said

we all want PV to succeed but currently this is some of the limits that no other PTC has and we cannot have them if we want to succeed because then all whining starts at FB and other places this is PTC world and they are not like us investors

the best is if we get our ADS at the right timezone so they always see the ads, i got the ads yesterday when i normally go to sleep and in the morning some must go to the JOB

some time it takes 2-3 hours extra only to get to and from the job, and then we want go to sleep, are some still missing the point, i know some have this kind of jobs...

if we dont care of our users from regular PTC they will sure stop growing, they don't think it's better than all other and thats a problem
hrjustinptc - Forum moderator
Traffic Value: $8,376.82638 United States
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22/07/2014 07:47
I agree the ad issues should both be at set times one at server reset and then have the daily issue 12 hours later. I feel like eventually the larger daily ad issue will be automated when everything is running smooth.  I think that as time goes on the different BAP groups will balance out more predictable. Right now it is just a matter of working out the best percentages for each group as they are always changing. Plus there is also the matter of working out the crons so they do not consume all server resources. 
slosumo - Administrator
Traffic Value: $28,438.4426 Slovenia
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22/07/2014 08:07
@joe I definitely agree about making something that will make the newcomers like PV from day one. My post was aimed at people that DO check the forums and aren't here for just a few days yet many of them "panic" whenever there is a day without a main ad issue. These forums are getting spammed over and over with members pointing out issues that have been pointed out tons of times before and I'm sure Jo's aware of them. It's like people read the forums but still copy & paste things over and over again in all topics. It can get annoying sometimes smile  

But yeh, something should definitely still be implemented to improve first impressions. But 90%+ of people that complain on the first days are the free members. And they're getting more than enough (5cents min daily + random ads, recycled and option to reinvest). The thing that could solve A LOT of issues would be those "guide ads" the first week or so that I think are already in the pipeline from the start.
Belzebu
Traffic Value: $257.38666 Spain
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22/07/2014 08:14
another problem, whether for 2 or 3 days the highest groups of people with baps get nothing, the megaupgrade lose value because no money has not been paid in ad spends high value, 
I take only 2 months pv, 250K baps, 
  and gives me the same as mtv Get 2 years 
paidverts this limping and my impression about it seriously worsen
rtrplay
Traffic Value: $65,453.30658 Sweden
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22/07/2014 08:31
i dont think all have panic, problem is getting ads late yesterday and some other days when we are going to sleep and we cant click at them at the morning because we must do work and when we come home the ads have expired some must do this type of long work hours and it takes 2-3 hours only to get to and from the work, so this is important

some have the fortune working so we can check but some have not this, shall we say to them you cant do this you cannot grow your account anymore because you will never have the time to check ads, most people are PTC not like you @slosumo and if we dont care we are losing them
colasander
Traffic Value: $386,747.05153 Netherlands
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22/07/2014 09:13
Then go to bed 1 hour earlier and wake up one hour earlier, and click your ads before going to work.. simple as that.
Jo
Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain
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22/07/2014 09:13
Agreed. We need to improve consistency.

And PV will continue buying up shares... But the prce was on a negative trend as everyone kept undercutting PV's shares for sale... So I figured to take a week and see how low it'd go. Get rid of all the users creating that trend. As they're limiting the results PV is paying, and that's affecting our growth, which in turn affects the share price.

But it seems to be stable at 10cents and pushing back up slowly... so I think that's the floor price. And interesting that nobody wants to sell at $0.075 ... which is the debt swap price for a full return of your old investments.
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