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slosumo - Administrator Traffic Value: $28,438.4426 Slovenia 16 like this post 0 people 26/07/2016 11:23 @vsofthu You seem to have clearly misunderstood some thing. No one has ever mentioned that there will be no fees at all when selling RP for BAP - it was said that they would be reduced fro m15% to 5% post-reset, which they have. What you most likely mean by "no fees", is that any BA ad purchases will exempt you from paying 100 BAP tax daily, for the following 14 days after purchase. That's it. vsofthu Traffic Value: $139.48404 Hungary 0 like this post 2 people 26/07/2016 11:34 probably you have rights.. but if we take a look, everybody pays LESS fee on market, nothing different between who bought bulk ad and who did not! but i remember something in that category when somebody wrote about after buy an ad.. everybody pays less fee not only who bought bulk ad ^^ but ok, the fact does not change, there is FEEEEEEEE casio8978 - Forum moderator Traffic Value: $14,531.83197 Slovenia 4 like this post 0 people 26/07/2016 11:42 Yeah everybody pay less fee when trading with bap, from 15% to 5% fee Buying ad packs and no bap tax for 14 days have nothing to do with RP market and trading RP MarcdeKoning - Administrator Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands 14 like this post 1 people 26/07/2016 11:51 Vsof, you might want to either reread or try to talk to someone about it in your own language who has a better grasp of the english language. This would prevent these kind of misunderstandings. babycare Traffic Value: $25,276.97238 Saudi Arabia 0 like this post 0 people 26/07/2016 13:21 @Nyman23 Have you checked your payment processor to see if the amount was actually sent to pv? Most of the time, you will see a pending ad campaign because of some error in transferring the amount from the payment processor. Nyman23 Traffic Value: $403.41947 Portugal 1 like this post 0 people 26/07/2016 13:29 @babycare yes, I have checked with my payment processor... the payment was made lemao08 Traffic Value: $169.03014 Brazil 1 like this post 0 people 26/07/2016 13:47 Daily Ad Issue already sent? loreennaa Traffic Value: $3,330.3665 Spain 0 like this post 4 people 26/07/2016 13:50 the minimum difference of 150% of RP - $ to RP - BAP, has been removed? now the difference is 120% if it decreases, rather than reduce debt could be created by changing BAPS by RP, RP for money, and money AdPacks lemao08 Traffic Value: $169.03014 Brazil 0 like this post 0 people 26/07/2016 14:06 Sorry, but I did not understand your post @loreennaa. And even if it was possible (bap > rp > money > adpack with profit), it would be good : 5% fee, more packs bought (real money) and someone still having profit probably to invest more. loreennaa Traffic Value: $3,330.3665 Spain 0 like this post 0 people 26/07/2016 14:13 lemao08 for example if you get that money, with 110% and create a campaign that gives you 120% these hurting the sustainability of the company. ex ( not 110% is just one example with 2 baps less than now ) : 100.000 BAPS / 9 = 11111,11.. 11.111 x 0.0041 = 45,55$ 45,55 x 0.97 = 44.18 44 x 2400 = 105.400 tax bap: 100.000 * 0.95 = 95.000 = -5000 bap 5000-5400 = 400 more debt druth8x Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States 1 like this post 0 people 26/07/2016 14:22 IF BAP goes to 9, CASH would go down slightly as well. Not sure what off the top of my head, maybe about 2-4 pts per 1 BAP? 10 is only a profit for selling RP as your only asset due to the 3% fee, not for buying RP and selling RP for cash. IF you have cash and you can sell for $0.004 and buy BA, that is better than selling your CASH to RP for 10 BAP. Thus, the only reason you will see 9, is if it's very close to breakeven, and/or users can't collect evens of $1. There won't be a market large enough to matter for that ratio. 400 BTW, you are already seeing market manipulation, selling RP at 12 and rebuying at 11. Thus, while it's nice to know these users are willing to buy lots at 11, I'm kind of hoping, due to their big blocks, that RP CASH starts rising b4 they get back online, and are burned. Are you serious? 400 BAP debt, out of 100KBAP? The site has many many refferals, so they'd be getting 10% per BA purchase, and possibly 5% per click, if that user doesn't resell that BAP right away. Also, Marc closed a deal that wants twice as much page views as we are giving now. At min, that's 50 more page views per BA. loreennaa Traffic Value: $3,330.3665 Spain 0 like this post 0 people 26/07/2016 14:28 until recently I thought the rule of 150% was still active, and I did not get to calculate, but before making the move, calculate case and saw it was almost 120%, if people think it is still more beneficial may lower the price bap, they think they are winning more but it really is not. possibly a blokeo 150% may be high, but I would suggest one of 125 or 130% to avoid any problems lemao08 Traffic Value: $169.03014 Brazil 0 like this post 0 people 26/07/2016 14:51  I'm kind of hoping, due to their big blocks, that RP CASH starts rising b4 they get back online, and are burned.  -Couldn't agree more. MarcdeKoning - Administrator Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands 11 like this post 0 people 26/07/2016 15:09 Druth, I never mentioned BA for the new advertiser. He's not buying those. migflores Traffic Value: $270.54775 Venezuela 1 like this post 0 people 26/07/2016 15:16 @loreennaa "45,55 x 0.97 = 44.18"  soo.....   $1,37 profit for MTV and only create 400 BAP debt.... is a very good deal for mtv!!! loreennaa Traffic Value: $3,330.3665 Spain 0 like this post 0 people 26/07/2016 15:20 migflores  what??? druth8x Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States 2 like this post 0 people 26/07/2016 15:29 Marc, You said we deliver 1mil hits/day, each Ad Pack creates 50 more, so indirectly, that means if 20K (or slightly less due to over delivery) more BA's were bought, we'd be delivering 2mil hits/day. Or, am I confused? This ofc doesn't help us deliver/sell more banners, unless the advertiser opts out of banners (which happens quite often, actually) loreenaa, They are correctly saying, that when someone sells RP for CASH, that the 3% fee goes to the site. 3% does go to the site in the from of CASH and 400 BAP (20c the site owes the user and the upline - which could be the site) is way less than the profit $1.37 the site would get for just the sale of the RP in fees. OFC, it's not as simple as that. Once the site makes enough to pay bills, the profit goes to FTQ/Dividends. Still, 400 BAP is not much at that rate, if ever achieved in r/l, to help pay the bills, and even if it's just to give us FTQ/Dividends. Both of the latter often can go right back into the site. Even if cashed out, there are profit in fees that way as well. MarcdeKoning - Administrator Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands 8 like this post 0 people 26/07/2016 16:53 Why would I mention building a new product when it would be about BA's? druth8x Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States 0 like this post 0 people 26/07/2016 17:20 I am not saying that at all. Apparently, I can't explain what I mean. One more try. I, who obviously am not the advertiser you are talking about, buys 1 BA. In order for that to go from no clicks to 50, at min, that's 50 more Page Views for PV. It's actually "way" more, even if I do use my banner impressions, AND there is 0 overdelivery. This is b/c it takes more than 25 page views for the 728x90 banner (we have 2 of those slots, so 12.5) and 20 125x125 page views, and 0 160x600. In my above post, I didn't realize that even if clickers only viewed 1 page for each ad, that even a full "free" banner claim on the part of the BA advertiser, wouldn't be enough. In addition, each member who views my ad, clicks more than one full (2 horizontal, 5 square, and 1 vertical) page view, each time, I think min 2, though refersh to see if more ads/random checks ads up as well. You are right in stating that all these banner spots can and do give us some money. Which has nothing directly to do with your advertiser, but it is something. On top of that, our site currently gives 1mil visits a day, each BA will give at min 50, though actually b/c of so many clicks for the ad view process, more guaranteed). If we can bring that up to 2mil, your advertiser will spend twice as much. Which then means more BA purchases, is a good thing. Granted each BA only accounts for a very small part of that increase in that double ad buy, but the narrative I started with is, every little bit contributes. MichaelKline Traffic Value: $960.97608 United States 2 like this post 0 people 26/07/2016 18:09 vsofthu So... if I find a job in the USA that pays say, $10.00 an hour and the government gets a 5% referral commission for every hour I work (ok it's tax...), does that mean I look somewhere else where they deduct the tax amount from the hourly quote of my wages and tell me that I'll make $9.50 an hour while the government gets the other 5% of my wage? No! An intelligent person understands the difference between a GROSS wage and a NET wage. So 5% of my 2400 BAP will end up going to my referral, same as a government who receives a 5% tax from your hourly wage. Where do you suppose it is supposed to come from?

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