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Crxtraneo
Traffic Value: $563.95157 United States
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02/08/2016 03:28
Svetlana_cv 12 $0.0039 $0.0468
Svetlana_cv 12 $0.0039 $0.0468


try to look up the name....then take away the cv and underscore and see how many show up =P

and i only disagree above because the same ips make it complicated and leave you open to getting accused of multi account cr@p no offense 
Sionna
Traffic Value: $977.2026 Germany
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02/08/2016 03:46
@ Crxtraneo

Permission is permission even when it is years ago and done by Jo !!!
SilntKiller
Traffic Value: $1,295.4559 Pakistan
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02/08/2016 03:54
Support Help:
Yesterday Ad were issued but i did not received any 
problem from my side or Paidverts side ?
Crxtraneo
Traffic Value: $563.95157 United States
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02/08/2016 03:54
like i said unless you want to be accused of multi accounting lol go 4 it....its not a big deal as long as payment processors are legit...o and surprise surprise your the one that referred columbine...go figure lol...wake up come on
dear123
Traffic Value: $605.49135 India
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02/08/2016 04:28
In the case of keeping MULTI ACCOUNTS the most important  eligibility terms are that there should be different persons and keeping different accounts is NOT just to earn REF COM for UPLINE account.
BTC wallet ids can't confirm existence of separate individuals.

Here S......15 is very active in buying  bulk ads for BIG AMOUNT and selling its BAP  for RPs.
Big amount of REF COM is earned by UPLINE S.....19.where the UPLINE  is just keeping his account  active to collect REF COM. There is exploit by using the same IP too.

Quote druth8x: " The funds for this "15" account were all deposited over a week ago, even being a 3mil BAP member for a bit.
Today they "15" are selling their BAP and RP.

The older brother s....19 remains dormant .............cont'..."

So the said multi account are suspicious for exploit based on the following PV rule.
"

  1. Both the sponsor and referral account are clearly active and that the sponsor account is not just used to collect commissions from the referral.
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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02/08/2016 04:29
To those that have questions, esp regarding yesterday ads:

READ the 1st Post of the thread.

If that doesn't clear it up, scroll for the same question later in the thread, and read afterwards for your answer, from another user.

This goes for any issues/any day.
roidz
Traffic Value: $24,334.30701 Italy
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02/08/2016 04:37
Columbine@
Jo was jo, doesnt matter what he said wink
And the point is that you can't only earn ref commission from a second account situated in your house -. -
This is not difficult to understand, all people here could do the same things.. Create a fake account and take some fake document pics of random people.
Columbine
Traffic Value: $53,683.67577 Germany
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02/08/2016 05:27
roidz @

Don't worry! I don't earn any commissions of most of my referrals anymore because they have stopped to click and stop to invest. And be sure that I was the person who has invested the most. And I have lost a lot due to the shifts by Jo. But I made sure for myself that around 5 (of my about 100 referrals) are supposed to share the computer with me and I had a "yes". I don't cheat Marc or other members !!! So please stop this discussion and stop to treat me like a cheater !!!
roidz
Traffic Value: $24,334.30701 Italy
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02/08/2016 05:34
I dont know you,  i dont care about you.
I treat shakoor and shaukat like cheaters.
Even cheaters can lost a lot. 
If you did the same..im sorry for you.
Sionna
Traffic Value: $977.2026 Germany
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02/08/2016 05:46
Marc de Koning @

Please stop the attacks of "roidz". He has not the right to call other member a "cheater".
dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
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02/08/2016 05:51
Can we only use the google captcha for the PV iPhone app? I've been trying to change it but so far have not found anywhere to do that on the app
roidz
Traffic Value: $24,334.30701 Italy
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02/08/2016 05:56
Sionna@
Mine are not personal attacks, here just for talking and try to catch all cheaters.
Remember that if people cheat the system, WE ( even you) lose money smile
Dont you want to find people who cheat the system?
English is not my first lenguage, and i dont know a word less offensive than "cheater", if results too much "aggressive", sorry for that.
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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02/08/2016 06:04
dear123 is correct.

However, until older brother uses that commission, there is no violation, pertaining to #1.
Even in that case, if older brother becomes actually active, then no violation, pertaining to $1.

In fact, if my upline, who is inactive, but was active b4, was someone in my household/same IP and then came back, to check the status of FBG, saw the commission and used it, went back to inactive status. There really is no violation, Intent vs Letter.

Some users of the community are the more passive type, that may prefer to only refer others.
We don't want to consider them inactive, if it's only ref commission.
Even if all they could do is refer family members.
Whether they were active or not b4 doesn't matter.
If they only collect ref commissions but the family member actually does the activity and keeps the  commissions. Heck, they could add it to the household funds that can be spent by even their upline. It's gray, but should still be ok.
If they referred anyone/including same IP, but then got bored/disenfranchised, they can still come back and collect on previous work.

There is no term that states you must remain active in order to receive ref commission. Nor should there be. Again, Intent vs Letter is what should be the case. As hard as it is to detect, a blanket ban is not needed. In fact, I'm sure the cheaters can and may get away with getting back their 5/10% 0.25/1%'s even though they did not use the same IP AND are verified separate entities.

Now, if Admin care, they can work with these account holders to verify their identity, esp b4 any cashouts. If it's all used internally, no real harm.

As long as we aren't talking about manipulating the market/maintaining multiple accounts with BAP/MAP, and just ref commissions, there is very little harm. That ref commission does mean that someone generated the rest of the purchase/action, in the first place, ref commission is only a small part of that. Someone has to get that ref commission. For the integrity of the ref system, we don't allow changing to be your own ref, but if that's the only strike you did, it's not that big a strike.

Make no mistake, I do not condone cheating/deceiving.
If suspicious, I do want you to be scrutinized.
If someone does slip through, after all the admin checks, oh well. It's better than saying NO you must not refer a family member, if you ever end up inactive, save for collecting ref commissions.

Most of this is not specific comments on the current case. More a general statement.
Famil Member/Same IP, virtually interchangeable. When I use one, I probably mean both/as it applies.
sami92
Traffic Value: $6,536.65854 Bulgaria
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02/08/2016 06:09
I am in group 6, but I recieve my daily ads for group 5.
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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02/08/2016 06:13
Just got my Group Ads (6mil), 15min ago.

I'm sure the rest are on their way.
jordy186
Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands
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02/08/2016 06:39
i agree with roidz and i think its time to change the rules and stop the discussion about this permanently.

change the rule that its allowed to use more then 1 account per IP (while i still think its not fair to the advertisers) But they cant be referred to each other.

All existing accounts with the same ip and referred to each other should have their upline changed to portfolio.
MichaelKline
Traffic Value: $960.97608 United States
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02/08/2016 06:45
Because of the fact that IP addresses work the same as most other number systems, as in they get more specific from left to right, perhaps it would be more beneficial to present the last 4 digits instead of the first four. After all, there are at least 255*255 matching IP numbers to each IP listed as they are now. Leads to a lot of presumptions.
Aunifahad
Traffic Value: $261.94847 Bangladesh
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02/08/2016 06:45
I just Got my Ads,Planning on buying more ad packs with my Payza account soon smile.
Nenorma
Traffic Value: $126.13469 Macedonia
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02/08/2016 06:57
Thanks Nenorma. I have edited it and need 2 more shareholders to confirm.

The proper thread to report these is in the sticky threads above Report an ad breaking TOS
jordy186
Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands
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02/08/2016 07:04
you should report it in the sticky topic
https://mytrafficvalue.com/forum/misc/official_report_an_ad/1.html#p440725
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