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Jo Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain 1 like this post 12 people 18/06/2014 12:11 What do you think about this... As a possible MAJOR overhaul to the shares system. 1) Same 38,000,000 shares earning 19% of turnover. Paid via weekly cash dividends. Nothing changes there. 2) The marketplace becomes a completely rigid structure. It's no longer a "free marketplace". But instead it's designed to continually snowball the share price. (No bids) Quite simply, nobody can undercut the share price. You list your shares for sale at the current price, or higher. Then the "floor price" will creep up, everytime someone willingly buys shares at a higher price. 3) We could create two market places, one for small transactions, and another for large transactions. - Buy/Sell 1 share+ at whatever flaw price the mini-market is at. - Buy/Sell 25,000 share blocks, at whatever flaw price the main marketplace is at... That way big blocks could be sold at a discount over the higher priced micro blocks. 4) Perhaps we could lock the floor price for 2 server days. So irrelevant of whether the price climbs up. Users can keep selling at the same floor price, for lowest point during the last 48hours... That stops one crazy buy / sell; from establishing a new high price too soon. 5) In the event of zero share sales. Perhaps we could make the floor price reduce by 1% each day until things correct, and sales start flowing again. ------ Rammifications: 1) When you buy shares, you're basically locked in for life, unless you manage to sell them. There's no fire-selling / bailing option. Makes selling your shares harder. 2) Stops people undercutting the price for a quick sale. Good + Bad! --- For now, just comment what you think. If we determine this is a good idea; we'll make an official vote about it. Then if more than 15% of shares in circulation by volume dissagree. We won't change anything. rtrplay Traffic Value: $65,453.30658 Sweden 9 like this post 1 people 18/06/2014 12:39 why not have a special market for selling discount, for a fee % user can sell shares without affecting the real shareprice only to get the money quick because with your idea is near impossible to sell and i can't understand why the shareprice is more important than creating real revenue products...think like other companies if they tried manipulate the shareprice they would be kicked in the as out of the system and no one buys the share because it's just to hard to trade like regular shares so think this way most companies have divided shares in A and B shares, A is more controlled shareprice and valued most and is the only that gives dividends per week, B is lower and dividends could be per months or no dividends at all, and can be easy traded without affecting the main shareprice hrjustinptc - Forum moderator Traffic Value: $8,376.82638 United States 25 like this post 0 people 18/06/2014 13:28 I think this entire concept is in my honest opinion is absolutely horrible. The market works perfectly as it is currently. The share market should always be fluid and free flowing. This idea goes against everything the free market should be. If members want to quickly liquidate share assets then so be it. I am not opposed to a implementing a fee if someone undercuts marketvalue. A fee on top of selling super cheap should help to deter low price undercutters. The market has always had a free flowing aspect as it always should. Now is not the time to reinvent a wheel that is spinning perfectly fine. This may sound a bit harsh but I just wanted to throw it out there. I am fairly disappointed by all the time and effort spent brainstorming the sharemarket. Along with the seemingly outright begging people to buy shares. The market works plain and simple people will always want to buy low and sell high. I think eliminating the option to sell low just hurts the overall system. If you do not allow the price to fall then there is no liquidity and in turn there would be a huge reduction in people buying shares. Basically there is no reason to force the sharemarket down peoples throats. It should be something people visualize on their own it is not rocket science. Shares are ownership of the company buying and then selling at a profit should just be a bonus. The profitability alone is not something to rely upon. Yes, The share price should always naturally increase as long as MTV/PV products are profitable. I do not think it is good to talk about the share as a guarrenteed investment. Onurb27 Traffic Value: $556.4157 Brazil 17 like this post 0 people 18/06/2014 14:05 The stock market is good as is! allow time for the appropriate adjustment is normal now take longer for the price rise, as we have 10x more shares circulating in the market.  Another thing worth mentioning the stock market is a risky investment, who is investing should be aware of it. trying to turn it or artificially manipulate the market to increase the values ??of the stock is a mistake. Let the market as it is, let's focus on more important things how to attract more people and develop more profitable products for MTV. The games are little return. I think it would be time to consider a game like online poker the house earns a fixed% of hands played and thus make the sector most profitable games! hrjustinptc - Forum moderator Traffic Value: $8,376.82638 United States 14 like this post 0 people 18/06/2014 14:33 A large investor into shares or anything would be a great thing of course. Unfortunately people with large sums of cash to inject into anything are very few and far between. I think the best thing to do is just stay the course and continue tweaking products to increase the daily turnover. Thousands of small investors is just as good if not better then one substantial investor.  All of this share discussion just gives me the impression that PaidVerts has to much capital invested into the shares. That is why there is this incessant need for investors to buy shares to free up that cash. I hope that is not the case but it just appears that way sometimes. I think revamping the 250% plan and then focus PaidVerts assets on using that would be a much better option. With the current projections the 250% is a much wiser investment focus for PaidVerts to get its needed 2.5% return. The shares have the potential for huge rewards but the risks are just a big if not bigger. Have faith in the operations of the products and the shares will naturally increase in value. It is definitely not good attempting to artificially fluctuate the share prices one way or the other.  dguy Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada 0 like this post 0 people 18/06/2014 17:49 I haven't sold one share I've bought here since day one (though Jo sold a few for me in the debts swap ). I will admit I don't buy a lot of shares but I try to buy some every day as commissions trickle in. The problem with the 'only up' thing is that people like me will not be able to buy more shares when the price goes down. If the price were to drop we would sweep up the extra shares with the same money. Those shares would then go into our pockets for the long term. I've already said I don't plan on selling my shares until they hit $50($500 pre split). I'm not sure if I'm serious but I would like to make a lot of money here and selling for pennies is not the lot of money I'm looking for. I already suggested to Jo that he use development funds for share buybacks. Even if he only committed to 10% - 20% I think this would make a huge dent in the share market over the long term Jo Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain 6 like this post 0 people 18/06/2014 18:01 Noted! I'm a fan of freemarket stuff; let standard economics and 'supply and demand' do it's thing. Forcing the situation has its advantages, and I can see why Carlos keeps pushing for it. But I also understand, that fear is the enemy. And nobody likes the idea of being trapped. Brainy Traffic Value: $1,095,877.628 Canada 8 like this post 0 people 18/06/2014 19:22 Even if I try to increase the share price by telling people to list high, I prefer the free marketplace. Jo, If you want to boost the sharemarket, I think you should put some banners on PV about the share market. Jo Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain 0 like this post 0 people 18/06/2014 20:14 Yea, I tried doing that... but ran into a bug. Waiting on the programmers to sort it before I can much. ccsoccer Traffic Value: $3,059.81852 United States 1 like this post 0 people 19/06/2014 07:54 The Market is fine the way it is, I think my putting "regulations" and such around it you will find that most people will not one to invest into it due to complication and the idea of not being able to liquidate. Now I do believe you should have an additional fee for those people who undercut the share price by a certain percent as a convenience fee, as there are times that people will need to liquidate their shares for something or another. Besides the fee I believe that the share system is perfectly fine as it is and there is no reason to change something that is working just fine when we can put our development money towards creating new products for MTV. MarcdeKoning - Administrator Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands 1 like this post 0 people 19/06/2014 12:45 Look at the shareprize, it's JUMPING up! And Paidverts is making a killing both on the sharemarket and on the 250% plan  colasander Traffic Value: $386,747.05153 Netherlands 1 like this post 0 people 19/06/2014 12:47 Plus there is a nice dividend coming monday MarcdeKoning - Administrator Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands 4 like this post 0 people 19/06/2014 13:00 If we cross the 16k new investments like last week i'm gonna get about $50 indeed.  Which makes me earn $200 per month just on dividends.