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Jo
Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain
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16/06/2014 22:58
This idea is contraversial... no idea whether it's a good idea or not. I just thought of the potential today, and i'm throwing it out there to bat the idea around a bit.

Currently:
New Users... 8x 50 BAP ads until 100 activation ads.
Thereafter... 2x 50 BAP ads.

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Now i'm thinking... can we introduce a membership fee around this point? Or shortly after it, say at 200 activation ads?

With the theory being, that users have experienced PaidVerts. Earned some free money. Perhaps bought ads. And are now committed to the system.

Ideas for Options:

$1.99 .... some minimal level membership. Perhaps just to continue receiving 2x50 BAP activation ads daily. Required to keep their account going.

$9.99 .... regular membership. Gives you 8x50 BAP ads daily again. ($73 total potential value over a year)

$19.99 ... bonus membership. Gives you 5x100BAP ads daily ($91.25 total value). And maybe with this upgrade we can knock 5seconds off your Bulk Ads timer... So you can view ads a bit quicker.

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And with these upgrades...
10-20% referral commission
30-40% MTV portfolio revenues
50% we can throw back to the daily ad issues

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That's the rough idea...
Question is, will it work? Or will it just scare everyone off? ... As in theory; there's a hell of a lot of money to be made if you can get tens of thousands of people paying a yearly membership fee of whatever description.

Any ideas?
detraephot
Traffic Value: $6,467.88006 Germany
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16/06/2014 23:09
I think you'd be hurting the system more than helping it. Smaller members will see that they have to buy ads eventually to continue earning well, which some may begrudgingly do, but if you add a membership fee into the mix most people won't even bother.
Jo
Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain
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16/06/2014 23:14
Yes I can totally see that.

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The above idea is incomplete at best... I'm looking for ideas if we were to pursue such a thing, how could we do it properly, and in a worthwhile manner for all?
Jamal
Traffic Value: $114,601.66988 Spain
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16/06/2014 23:19
No way. Very bad idea.
tupko
Traffic Value: $32,122.18249 Croatia (LOCAL Name: Hrvatska)
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16/06/2014 23:42
these upgrades are potential but they seem a little bit pointless to (free) users and not so attractive when they can instead start buying ad packs with their 2$ earned from free bap.

Basically what you're doing with these upgrades is, you're making people to pay for ability to get paid,
that's like telling someone: hey, I'm offering you a job but you have to pay for it first(one-time, monthly, annually) that's unusual.

but anyways if people start to calculate what is better in a long run, I think they'll choose buying bulk ads since it seems faster/less hassle

overall good idea for boosting PV ads value and MTV portfolio revenues, keep them ideas coming smile
webmydata
Traffic Value: $20,280.94579 Germany
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17/06/2014 01:37
I usually avoid any program where I have to pay a membership fee!
Don't like it at all! angry
ccsoccer
Traffic Value: $3,059.81852 United States
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17/06/2014 01:37
Take out the first option, make it so that people who don't want the membership can still earn without buying anything, then have your other two memberships still. Early on users will be focus on just collecting Bap, then once they are making money they will be interesting in increasing at that money with the membership upgrades. 

I think the overall concept would be good for Paidvert, just it needs to be more focus on the users who have been there for awhile, while letting the new users know that this is an option for them if they desire it but they aren't being forced into it.
Brainy
Traffic Value: $1,095,877.628 Canada
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17/06/2014 03:18
I also think that the first option goes against PTC philosophy.
The majority of PTC users is and will always be free users.
If you ask people to pay in order to earn, I think it will be bad for the business.

If you think that giving 2x50BAP/day is not realistic for long term sustainability of PV, you could reduce the activation ads to 1x50BAP instead of asking for a membership fee. I think that would be better for the business than asking for a fee.

However, I think options 2 and 3 are good upgrades for veteran clickers searching to make some profits.
dbinghamjr
Traffic Value: $68.52568 United States
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17/06/2014 04:31
1x 50 BAP ad is pretty pointless... Once the BAP tax is taken, you've only got 25 BAP left. A free user would have a hard time building up any real amount of BAP when they're only really "making" 25 per day. (As most ad issues would use up all of it.)

I agree with most of the other comments, drop the $1.99 option & you've got a nice plan.
faran07
Traffic Value: $37.66201 Pakistan
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17/06/2014 05:16
IMHO You should give 2x50BAP ads daily for free and the users should have an option for stopping dollar ads so they can gain more BAP and then start receiving dollar ads.
Their should be 3 paid memberships with some extra bonuses for example:-
$3 membership which will give you 3x100BAP ads daily + a small ad pack and 3 MTV/PV share ( 1 month membership)
$5 membership which will give you 5x100BAP ads daily + a little bigger ad pack and 5 MTV/PV shares ( 1 month membership)
$10 membership which will give 5x100 + 2x50BAP ads daily + bigger ad pack than other memberships and 15 MTV/PV shares (2 month membership)
Brainy
Traffic Value: $1,095,877.628 Canada
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17/06/2014 06:03
You can't put MTV shares in a membership plan with a fixed price, as the share price changes everyday
MikeMazzone
Traffic Value: $1,181,925.44366 United States
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17/06/2014 07:28
Paidverts could have reserve shares for subscription purchase bonus.  $1.99 minimum annual subscription fee will not stall the growth of paidverts, it'll still grow a lot from the couple months users enjoy it up to getting 200 activation ads and a lot of those users won't wanna waste unused BAP so they'll subscribe.
webmydata
Traffic Value: $20,280.94579 Germany
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17/06/2014 07:42
Oh, just figured that you talk about annual membership fee! smile
(I thought it was monthly, that I dont like at all!)
But yearly would be OK for me and should work well!
slosumo - Administrator
Traffic Value: $28,438.4426 Slovenia
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17/06/2014 07:57
Definitely dump the first point, the other two are good, but with a small change perhaps:
I think that most people who can "afford" the 10$ upgrade straight up either already have enough BAP and wouldn't bother clicking these BAP ads everyday OR would see that it's better to just buy 10$ worth of ads straight, get 31K BAP and compound your earnings much faster - compounding would net you more BAP than clicking on the additional BAP ads you would receive from the upgrades.

So I think that if you would change the membership to Monthly, say 1$ for option 2), it would be bought MUCH more. With 1$ it's much harder to compound at start and the 300 extra BAP you would be receiving each day would prove a better choice. Plus many people give up on clicking after a few months so would definitely feel more comfortable buying a 1 month ( not to mention A LOT MORE could afford it). 

Keep option 3) as it is - this will appeal to people who like yearly membership and thus appeals to different kinds of members. Again instead of buying the upgrade one could buy 20$ worth of ads and compound MUCH quicker, BUT it has the appeal of less ads to view, plus a possibly reduced timer would make it worthwhile purchase just because of that. I am sure at least 50% of people with 500k+ BAP would eventually decide to buy it if they're here for the long run.
Jo
Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain
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17/06/2014 09:08
Please don't see this as "choosing one my ideas"... I don't actually like my idea here... I just think there is potential in what it's trying to achieve.

How would you implement / operate some sort of membership system with PaidVerts?

... We'll debate whether or not to do it later. First of all, let's refine the idea. And I want you to come up with variations / new versions of this concept --- even if we don't use them. They'll help develop the core idea.
hrjustinptc - Forum moderator
Traffic Value: $8,376.82638 United States
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17/06/2014 09:26
Isnt this basically features that could be added to the super user upgrades. I think keeping everything simple is the best option. There is already the pro upgrade which doesnt seem to deliver as well as it did at first. Then there is the filter to remove smaller ads. If anything there should just be two more packages. A basic super user with minimal options and then the normal super user with added features like timer reductions etc. 

Annual membership is nice but I think a  dollar earnings target before expiring would be better. Then depending on how the overall site is running member could possibly upgrade multiple times per month. Options for free member should be as limited as possible if they will not spend anything.  When compared to NeoBux for example. PaidVerts is much easier to manage earnings and stay above break even for an average user.
JingleBall
Traffic Value: $2,370.48552 Croatia (LOCAL Name: Hrvatska)
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17/06/2014 09:30
I like idea with memberships, but I still think that free users should keep getting 50 X 2 BAP ads
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