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paidverts
Traffic Value: $2,592,904.1508 Spain
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08/04/2015 05:43
We are running into a few issues of late with PaidVerts being linked to MyTrafficValue... Specifically regarding PayPal and trying to open bank accounts for PaidVerts to accept ad sales (which ordinarily wouldn't be an issue). However when the banks do their checks, our company name comes back to MTV + PV... And then they start asking questions which confuses the entire thing to no end, and un-necessarily.

Furthermore... MTV is a giant grey area legally. As crowd-investing really doesn't exist yet. Not for non-accredited investors anyway.

So I was wondering... in addition to setting up a separate businesses for PV and MTV... would it be worth making MTV more 'obscure' ... perhaps via making our homepage completely plain. Not promoting anything of what we do. It's just a login form + membership application form.

As I think we have a critical mass of members now, that we don't need to publicly promote ourselves. People come here because friends refer them... I question the value of promoting via our homepage.

And I think in a twisted way... not promoting ourselves will make us look more professional / desirable than trying to promote ourselves.
Stephanos9
Traffic Value: $1,685.19331 Cyprus
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08/04/2015 05:52
I agree, promoting it as far as now, it only brings in people from other ptc sites. We need people ready to take risks, invest and be doers.
itdsireclaim
Traffic Value: $345.42475 Sri Lanka
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08/04/2015 06:17
I have few friends who invested in HYIPs, they are big investors. I am trying to bring them here. But the problem is limitations in next 60 days sad
Personally I like to invest in MTV rather than invest in HYIPs. I feel secure here, but the problem is my payment processor (PAYZA) is not supporting to invest directly. Because of this problem few big investors who checked this system via my links did not join.
But MTV can do nothing about that problem. Actually it is a very complicated problem for me grin

Let's talk about the business, PV is the key business according to my viewpoint. Now PV has a big competitor out there, named as Advert**r. What I could figure out in the last couple of days? people like that site rather than working with PV. This is an ugly truth, but we need to understand WHY?
01. To earn few cents from PV we have to click 6 times (if I am not mistaken, this is time consuming)
02. Complicated captcha
03. New members feel tired because of 0.0005$ ads. (Sometimes they have to click more than 100 - 0.0005$ ads)

Most of my downlinks left the business because of above mentioned issues. I don't know it is an issue or not, but new members getting tired because of these very complex business process.

I wish Jo will do reviews and understand most sensible points to enhance the business strategy to the new era of PTC. After all we all need to understand this business will survey because of new comers. This is crowd funding. If we couldn't understand it, this business will not run more than 1-2 years from now. (I hate to think about it)


Thanks
itdsireclaim
jithu619
Traffic Value: $13.77494 India
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08/04/2015 06:44
itdsireclain

01. To earn few cents from PV we have to click 6 times (if I am not mistaken, this is time consuming)
02. Complicated captcha
03. New members feel tired because of 0.0005$ ads. (Sometimes they have to click more than 100 - 0.0005$ ads)



I don't think these are problems, because you have to work if you want to gain something, no matter what.
In PV even new members can earn ~0.1$/day easily and thats not a small thing in the case of PTC sites.I don't have any personal experience with the  site you mentioned, but I don't think thats gonna be a problem because if a user knows about PV/MTV  then he wont leave here.
itdsireclaim
Traffic Value: $345.42475 Sri Lanka
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08/04/2015 06:58
Dear jithu619,
I could see you are just a beginner here. Yes if people has enough time to spend on PV/MTV then it is not a matter at all. But don't think everyone has lots of time to spend to earn few $ or cents per day. This is stable, to improve the stability my suggestion could help to Jo. Because personally I know how hard to recruit new comers to PV, and how hard to keep them alive.
PV is lucky if every person could think like you do. Unfortunately my hand has 5 types of fingers.

Cheers!
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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08/04/2015 07:27
Is that new site got stuff that will make it last? I know Dig is still around, with very low earnings I read. PV is still better than Dig, even this PreSwap "Month". I wonder just how long AdV will last.


On to the OP.
If I were a Bank or a "serious" Business, I'm sure I could find MTV, while looking into PV. So, why does it make sense to hide MTV? Many People still advertise MTV and PV together (I do). We also have a Forum link and Share link in our Member's Area at PV. I wonder just how long Search Engines would take to unhook us. For instance, Rich, you are still easily found about your old sites, and I personally had no idea about those sites, prior to hearing about these sites.

What I think you need to do is ask the Bank's themselves, what would it take to get on board with PV. Think about asking your lawyers as well.
pflip
Traffic Value: $6,326.35424 Italy
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08/04/2015 07:45
I don't think "obscuring" is the right way.

I'd rather be in plain sight, nothing to hide. Taken for grant that PV need its own separate business, as well as all other projects that will generate in the future from MTV funding.

So, I'd prefer that MTV home page states clear and simply.

This is a crowfunding investment hub.  We gather investors and entrpreneurs to fund new projects  and endevours. The risks and the rewards are high. Do you own research before investing your money here.

I would consider MTV the financial branch (the holding company) of the various projects that will control Each its own separate entity and website, with its own user base, its processors and so forth.


MTV should be a Venture Capital enterprise. The investors will put their money  in here to fund new businesses. They will be rewarded based on the success of those projects.

Actually, since we have already a share market in place, each new projects (being PV, or a new gambling game, or a vacation rental complex) should have its own shares. The investors will be rewarded as shares based on their invetments and those share could be traded in the MTV marketshare creating more earning opportunities
crysty
Traffic Value: $5.02009 Romania
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08/04/2015 09:48
Hi,
If you really want that PV to wear the Paypal emblem on the website , to attract more investors just because of this trusted processor then you have to separate MTV from PV.
Hiding MTV it's not the ultimate solution, this can make the things worse by losing trust from some members or future investors.
Separate and let the MTV with the cash games and game investments and FV with ads and real estates buildings with shares. Each website with it's own shares.
How about to buy a building in a center of a town and rent the spaces for offices , or to buy a restaurant or a motel... i would love to win 1000 dollars on PV and come to the motel for few days with a discount of 10% from food but for rooms free as a member ? This is a real advertise in real world for PV and more people would want to invest.
A restaurant could be ideal as the food will always sell if it's traditional . Maybe a small real bussiness wont bring lots of online money but at least they are real and can be used to buy real things later, such as a server , a new computer ,etc.
I think investing members shares on real estate buildings would be true next level of the bussiness not hiding a website.
It will be very hard to buy a real estate building but at least you can remove the 240 plan and let the 200 one to be as maximal. I know it hurts for the big investors, but you cant give forever 240 or 250% profit ,also many would believe that this high earnings are based on a pyramidal scheme, because online casino games wont run forever with huge profits...on this way you'll have some funds to give to PV to go on its real path to the real world..and creating new jobs would be awesome...wink..and i need a job as well ermm . Anyways do what you have to do, what you and the MTV/PV council thinks it's the best for us, i wish you good luck in everything.
Thank you.
Hirenbhai
Traffic Value: $346.1741 India
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08/04/2015 10:27
@pflip - Very well said bro. I absolutely agree with everything you wrote. cool grin
Catt
Traffic Value: $1,193.5857 Brazil
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08/04/2015 11:26
I agree that if I were a serious business no matter how much we 'hid' MTV it could be found.. and I would look more suspiciously at something that was hidden from me than at something that was at plain sight. Google won´t let you hide anything as long as it is mentioned in the internet and we know it.

This is the crossroads. PV is a product from MTV, but now only PV seems to be acceptable to 'the world'. The big bucks are in MTV. So what to do? I would totally separate the two business - maybe even put PV in someone´s name (Carlos or yours) and MTV in someone else´s. No links whatsoever is much more acceptable than hiding - which seems pretty impossible.
boilermaker
Traffic Value: $723.49201 South Africa
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12/04/2015 19:41
Its kind of worrying hearing jo say this, is there something we dont know "legally"? Is there a chance of the site being forced to shut down?

Very worrying indeed...
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