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NEOne84
Traffic Value: $3,741.85504 Poland
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30/07/2014 17:44
Aeorith 100% agree with you.


There are many ways to reduce the deficit:

- Tax 100 BAP
- less the value of the campaign (3000 BAP)
- 2 ads activation a day after 25 BAP


This milestone is the motivation to work for many people who develop PV
ss9768
Traffic Value: $521.67297 India
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30/07/2014 18:06
Hi Jo,
I agree, free BAP's should stop after a certain level, say level 4 or 5 because by then members would know how to increase their BAP levels.
Also, I think we can view BAP's from a different perspective. I mean members would ensure to maintain a desired BAP level to continue getting its benefits, which means the minimum BAP pertaining to that level will effectively remain blocked forever. Assuming a member wants to close his account, his BAP level will decrease, reducing allocations and delay liquidation of BAP. 
Since the allocations are in percentages, the system would stabilize itself.
This is just my perception.

Regards,
blaxbla
Traffic Value: $27,232.49886 Croatia (LOCAL Name: Hrvatska)
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30/07/2014 18:37
@colasander

I think that Jo already mentioned that he is using MTV/PV earnings to help the system, and that he is only taking money from development funds for his salary.
polo26
Traffic Value: $2,211.17614 France
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30/07/2014 18:48
I agree entirely with Jo
 for me milestones was a Bonus
and this costs enormously for  the stability to offer free BAP for the program must be seen in the longterm for the duration of the program and stop crying like babycwy

frankly make a   R. O.I  of  155%

and earned level commission of 5%  is already well

it's OK for me

I do not need to have milestones to promote PV, it is a false excuse 

I earn more with referrals commissions and clicks  than with the milestones
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frankly this is 8 years I'm online and I have rarely seen sites which proposed a system of milestones + a system of commissions together



it's crazy, it put a huge pressure on the program, a 5 year old child understand that
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this is unpopular, but they would be more unpopular What is PV closes
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otherwise no longer send free BAP   to members who have more than 12,000 BAP is a good idea too 
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MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
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30/07/2014 19:25
There's loads of cash waiting for the shareholders that want to cash out!


MarcdeKoning
11,991
$0.0601
paidverts 83,650
$0.06
marcool1
Traffic Value: $899.53291 Canada
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30/07/2014 19:37
Jo, you are earning $450 of referral commissions per 48 hours and still paying yourself a salary?!?!? How about reducing your salary, that is also helping reducing OUR debt.


HAHAHA THAT TRUE TOO :p!!!
dipita
Traffic Value: $2,857.36882 Mexico
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30/07/2014 20:20
I think it's better if you stop giving free BAP to people who sign up to paidverts, the site would be a lot better if people who want to join the site paid their own ad campaign at paidverts it's already pretty good giving people 55% per every dollar they spent it's a great deal. The down side of not giving people free BAP is that not everybody will sign up to paidverts but the good thing is that you'll only have valuable people signing on paidverts that are commited to invest but making money
MichaelKline
Traffic Value: $960.97608 United States
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30/07/2014 20:31
The tax needs to be more fairly spread. Use a scale like your level system. The higher your level, the higher your tax amount. With the current system, a new member with just 3100- BAP pays the same in BAP Tax as a person with 6,000,000+ BAP.
Thuru
Traffic Value: $1,909.96027 Netherlands
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30/07/2014 20:32
It seems that milestones already are removed instead waiting a day so people could finish it, badly, i was just few clicks from the 200k baps.
polo26
Traffic Value: $2,211.17614 France
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30/07/2014 20:38
the strength and disadvantage of PV is that PV is a mix between a revshares and PTC
So there are a lot of PTC members who register on PV to earn free without becoming members paying

but I think some with FREE bap  discover PV and then become active

you just see the progress over time of the percentage of free members compared to paying members ( currently 50/50)

I see FREE BAP like a product appeal

after if in the future there is 80% of members FREE
and 20% of members paying effectively there will be real problems

but for the momment I do not think members FREE are a   economic pressure on PV

which can save PV of destiny funestre of usual revshares that lasts in average 6 months 
is the investment of PV in MTV with complan 250FT I believe

and especially that PV  catch members of PTC who have all know are much
more that members of traditional revshares
although in the PTC there are many free  members, they must be paying members in the lot
MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
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30/07/2014 20:38
Sigh, there goes my hard work and the cash I spent on advertising/informing my referrals.
Jamal
Traffic Value: $114,601.66988 Spain
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30/07/2014 20:54
I´m tired that paidvert undermining price of shares, paidverts should help raise the share price.


paidverts     61,638     $0.09
Belzebu
Traffic Value: $257.38666 Spain
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30/07/2014 21:02
not remove the landmarks, I've been looking for people personally and have gotten several people to invest in pv still have not given them my referral link or have told you the name of the page, was about to get 200,000 baps after much effort that life is unfair 


is not no gift is a reward for effort, a great deal of investment of time and money to promote your site
polo26
Traffic Value: $2,211.17614 France
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30/07/2014 21:25
you earn on purchases of your downlines, all is not lost,
billionaire
Traffic Value: $4,963.69955 India
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30/07/2014 21:42
@ Jo,

Keep the last one as milestone or extend it to a bit higher target, that could help to motivate users like a target to hardly work on referring more large investors to PV..

"Refer 20+ friends, that view 25,000+ ads, and buy $2,500 ads, to receive 2,000,000 BAP"
Bopyer
Traffic Value: $142,703.83456 Slovenia
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30/07/2014 22:13
ok, what the heck ???? i spend like 700$ for promoting and i got like 99% of my last
milestone finished and now they are deleted.... REALLY, WHAT THE F***

is this some kind of the joke????


please, Jo, answer me, is this some kind of the joke?
i needed like 10 hours more to complete my milestone and they are removed.
this is totaly UNFAIR!!
in the worst case there should be a deadline!
missi
Traffic Value: $12,691.63746 Australia
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30/07/2014 23:14
With the milestones gone so suddenly there goes the incentive I had to spend the $300 on ads that I had aside for today. 

And with the delay in answering support tickets lead out the door the thought of depositing $2000 I was going to bank transfer into MTV which would have also had some go into PV when matured. 

Im probably better off in life with what I decided purchase instead because I got tired of waiting for an answer. 

Things like this give an impression of oh well you just dont want my money and thats ok. I am not the most important or impatient person but like all humans, there is a point when you just shrug your shoulders and take a step back.

Yeah its only $2300, not like Im a big fish to care about and you will make that off someone else and even possibly me still over time as I have no doubt that I will spend that eventually depending on how PV/MTV pans out with all these headaches and no warning on changes you think of. 

Sheesh! Good or bad for the program as it may be, majority of humans dont cope with sudden change well. Give people at least a few days to a week to catch up on and digest whats coming. So many new members struggle to even find this forum for information about PV let alone know that they have a MTV account to log into and look for why 

It took me 2 months to save it up from my own real life (not online) earnings but with the above things I have no motivation to put good amounts of money just yet. 

Too many changes too fast makes one very uncertain to be honest and with an unstable site as it has been its not filling one with reasons to keep spending (especially on promoting when numerous ads were wasted at other places because what I was referring wasnt working)

As for the free BAP, I agree that should only be there to help new members get a chance to learn how PV works and agree that beyond a certain BAP group we should only get free activation ads to keep our account active. 

The tax... why give 100 free BAP in activation ads only to take it away every day? Kind of sounds like a job that doesnt need to be done at all if your taking it all away again.  

I dont mind the 100 BAP tax as long as beginners have a fair chance at getting above a certain level of BAP first. 

I am not a guru with numbers so will leave it to you but I agree that new members should have a grace period of no tax at least while they are learning then once they get to a certain amount of BAP or make a certain amount of purchases then the BAP tax starts. 

Also agree the final milestone should remain. For someone to achieve that they have obviously spent and supported you and your program alot. Your business would be no business without those people who go to great effort to invest, promote and support you while you grow, hence the need for crowd funding this rather than having funds to build products from the beginning. You should give something to those, even if you dont re-introduce some of the lower ones.
iworknet
Traffic Value: $400.67513 Philippines
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30/07/2014 23:26
Everything is good! But considering first the program how to become more sustainable is very important! If the system gives to much BAP Maybe someday PV will be no longer stand at all and I really don't like it. Imagine finding Good Program is very hard to find, lot of scam out there, I'm tired of it. When I found PV I told to myself that this is the kind of program I must stick to it. because everything comes from reality. 

Logical isn't it? Let's learn a lot from other program. Why do you think they did not success at all? The fact is they did not know how to cover lots of incentive. Imagine Many members are free user that doesn't want to invest in the first place. if you compare it to the ratio of 75/25 (Free/Real Investor) would you think they can survive?

The fact that Jo Remove the account milestone is because he see's some problem that might be come in the future and that is not good.

Of course, Jo I believe consider members too who work hard and invest too much just to promote this site. Remember he listened from this account milestones idea that's why we have it from now?

I think the best solution for this is not remove it, but to revise it, in a win to win basis. Its possible you know? wink
colasander
Traffic Value: $386,747.05153 Netherlands
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30/07/2014 23:32
HAHAHA so because milestones are deleted you suddenly did not want to invest anymore missi? There is still money to be made here, beside a few milestones.
hrjustinptc - Forum moderator
Traffic Value: $8,376.82638 United States
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30/07/2014 23:36
Here is my suggestions although they probably wouldn't help immediately. 

Grandfather the milestones in for those who had reached a few already. To be perfectly honest it is a catch 22 on the Milestones. They are a great incentive but really they really are way to big. I do not like just suddenly removing them but I can understand it. 

For the free debt as long as free members can make enough BAP to request the micro ad packs that is fine. So if you make it so it will be 200 BAP each day after the first 100 activation ads that is still fair. If a free member can earn at least the $0.05 per day from micro packs that is plenty. with random ads and recycles its much more then just $0.05 in a day. The games can win more BAP and just one bulk ad for a dollar gives 3100. I doubt anyone could make a dollar or more in 20 days or less on any other site.

I know everyone hates the idea of losing the milestones but they really are just an extra debt creator. The commissions plan is still very lucrative without milestones. I think that it is far more important for PaidVerts to reduce its debt itself. If PaidVerts can actually profit even before its MTV investments daily ad issues will be massive. The way I see it is if milestones need to be removed to help make each days ad issue bigger then go ahead and remove it. If each persons BAP can get consumed 10x faster then the milestones are moot. 
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