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Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
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01/09/2016 17:58
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What a sad end of what should have been a great month overall.
As most of you know by now we've had a security breach on BarterMyFunds yesterday.

The attacker managed to somehow trick our database into believing that it was receiving transactions and our system "responded" by sending it its bartered return.

Once we found out that we were being drained, all of our BMF-related accounts were already empty.

Total damage: $8700

We then had $40 in our payment processors left and surprisingly he kept attacking us for over 1 and a half hours to get those $40 as well.
We "fought him off manually" while trying to find the exact loophole that he found.
Sadly we haven't been able to find the exact source as of now.

We've implemented a number of patches to prevent further abuse, but as we're not sure what the exact way of entering was, I've decided that the most logical thing to do is keep our balances for automatic transfers very low as of now while putting up a button/notice on the website that informs people that we do bigger transactions manually for the time being.
Sadly, this will add fees on our end which we'll have to calculate into the transaction, which is gonna make it that much more difficult to remain competitive.

I instantly went to Okpay to see if we could at least get the money back that he stole there, the reply I got was the following:

OKPAY Support
Hello, thank you for contacting OKPAY Support!

It is not possible to retrieve already sent payment in OKPAY as e-currency is non-reversible (see paragraphs 2.4 and 2.4.1 of the Terms of Service https://www.okpay.com/en/company/agreements/terms-of-service/). This account has been blocked and unfortunately there is no funds on the balance.

Sincerely yours,
OKPAY Team


So they did block his account, but the money was already gone/can't be reverted.
But by looking into Okpay I got a 2nd email and his full name (But who knows, these guys are very tactical so it might be connected to fake documents)

While all of his emails were russian, the IP that he used was dutch, so that led us to nothing either.

Furthermore he used 3 different PM accounts, a number of different bitcoin wallets and all of the cash is nowhere to be seen anymore.


Both Alex and I tried to contact him through email, but none of us got a response.
Here's the email that I wrote, keep in mind that in these cases you're empty handed and you try to play as tactical as possible:

Hello,

My name is Marc de Koning, CEO of BarterMyFunds among a few other companies (crowdfunded companies I have to add).
Tonight you pulled off a stunt by exposing a vulnerability in all of our wallets and you successfully stole $8700 of our funds.

Please explain me your reasoning for this.
We are a crowdfunded company like I already mentioned, those funds are part of profits that are shared in full to our investors.
You're not harming just us as a company but many people, regular people who are trying to collectively build a company on the internet that benefits them for the long term.

Now, i'm not the worst guy to deal with.
We often offer jobs to people who successfully expose loopholes in our system.
Which is exactly what i'd like to discuss with you now.

Please get back to me,


I was gonna expose his name and info, but I decided that after all this time building up my image I better not do anything debatable that might harm it.

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The following is a personal note:

This surely did cause me some damage, in a few ways.
I now have to make a number of very tough decisions and that money was needed for a number of purposes.
It's also very hard to deal with these things over and over again when you see a light at the end of the tunnel.
However, after about 3 hours of feeling "unpleased" I decided to not let this get the best of me.

I was SO excited yesterday when we exactly made our target for the bills on that day, after digging through our backed up bills since the reset.
This has been something that I was looking forward to and really aiming for.
Just 2 hours before the security breach I was very happy after calculating the daily results, ppmg etc to see that we made our target..

Every aspect of our business is improving.

-Paidverts picked up (pure advertising+ upgrades)
-The Paidverts forum really adds value to our community
-PPMG picked up
-And all of our bills during this month will be considerably lower due to the holidays+ a cut in the Amazon bill.


So I kept in mind that this would lead to excess money at the end of the following month which I had 3 very good purposes for:

-Payment for the legalisation
-Upfront payment for the Amazon servers (To further cut our costs)
-A buffer for December

I'm not saying this is gonna be impossible due to the security breach, as we are definitely improving a lot, but I just don't see PPMG adding an extra ~$8k during the next month.

However.. This has lead me to the following point..
And this is MY decision.
Andraz, Carlos nor any other member of our team has got anything to do with this decision and i'm the only one to blame/aim your dissatisfaction at.

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Dividends.

It seems that none of the decisions at hand are perfect ones.
But taking into consideration that most of our crowd's members show that they would fully understand + the improved financial outcome for the company..

I've decided not to pay dividends.

I could pay dividends and please those that are here for monetary reasons in the first place and put the business second or were really in need of the dividends to occur, which I totally understand.
But..

It would make it so much harder for our business to start the new month off with an even bigger illiquidity, which is just not how you should run a business in my opinion, nor have I ever made such a bad financial decision before (Just my opinion).

Perhaps a few disgruntled members will dump their Royalty Positions because of this decision, which I understand.
I just hope that the long term members, the ones that put the company before their own gains will snap those Rp's up and show that My Traffic Value and its community are confident about this decision and its future.

I also hope to get some support from you when people show up on the forum and treat the management in a disrespectful way.
We're feeling the pain as well, we really do.

My sincere apologies to anyone who's not happy with my decision.
vecors
Traffic Value: $2,173.146 Portugal
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01/09/2016 18:04
I fully support the decision. Forward is the way.

No one can call you a liar. This is just how business has to be. And no one ever said it was easy to run one, specially with all the challenges MTV has faced you (us) with!

The future will be bright. So lets just grab those willing to sell their RP`s even cheaper! grin
bitvert
Traffic Value: $4,371.00849 Romania
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01/09/2016 18:06
Not pay...just today? Or not on 1 october, 1 november and so on?
MisterGreen
Traffic Value: $22,303.8091 Netherlands
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01/09/2016 18:06
You are handling the predicament well, Marc.

Let me say what you can't say because you're the CEO. I am not angered easily but this time I feel like breaking this wimp's neck. He should be tracked down and prosecuted like the thief he is.
Shumy
Traffic Value: $1,087.93992 Croatia (LOCAL Name: Hrvatska)
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01/09/2016 18:11
Just dont give up! Dividends not so important now. If they wanna leave, let them go. Keep with good work!
tomke3sgte
Traffic Value: $1,789.92759 Croatia (LOCAL Name: Hrvatska)
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01/09/2016 18:13
good call marc, we have to keep our focus to the future
il051
Traffic Value: $14,823.02214 Croatia (LOCAL Name: Hrvatska)
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01/09/2016 18:14
Marc, I'm sure that majority of bigger shareholders support your decision, it wasn't an easy decision to make, but these circumstances are not regular either. As you said before, everything looked great only few hours before that event. These $5k meant for dividends will not make us any richer, but it will help our company to recover easier and get back on the track.
Just keep doing what you were doing until now - lead this company to the brighter future!
We believe in you!
bloodwolwo
Traffic Value: $74.61958 Poland
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01/09/2016 18:16
And i w8 more than month and stil lrp not give me profit so we will w8 next month or what? And that month will give to us profit or they work for free that month ?
vecors
Traffic Value: $2,173.146 Portugal
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01/09/2016 18:20
bloodwolwo

Are you serious?

You are waiting one month to get $0.015 in your balance? 

"Work for free"? Dividends are a "reward" given to a company to their shareholders for their trust in the business.

Bedside reading for tonight: Dividends
bloodwolwo
Traffic Value: $74.61958 Poland
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01/09/2016 18:24
Just wanted to see how many they add per 1, 1 month of wating plus they earn a lot of in one post was said so yes iam freaking very interest in this just to watch. Cant do anything with that just love to know that ^^
abiotic
Traffic Value: $22.31948 Pakistan
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01/09/2016 18:29
@Marc, why only members get loss every time?? ... it was your staff's mistake. Cutt their salary... No?? .. ok... i dont have alot of RPs nor any investment but people have invested alot and i heard many people saying 'i never get in profit and so on' .. since i have joined MTV/PV i have seen only sw@ps and losses... it is not a joke ... members also work hard all day and invest here because they trust you... atleast GIVE THEM SOMETHING EXCEPT HOPES! ... don't take personal ..
vecors
Traffic Value: $2,173.146 Portugal
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01/09/2016 18:33
abiotic

where has anyone lost anything? I`m pretty sure that if marc would pay dividends your speech would be "why so low"?

And it`s funny how you "attack" all staff (when most of them do give all they can for the business) and at the end you say "don`t take it personal".....
bloodwolwo
Traffic Value: $74.61958 Poland
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01/09/2016 18:38
Basicly all time downgrade is going, let me say  for 1$ was 155% -5% next 150%- 5% now 110 or 120% -5%
micro adds got bulled too
Invest plans 172% 170% 130% now on invest plans i lost a lot of money for me its many

Ps i know i know my eng isnt great;/
stobb
Traffic Value: $159.22316 India
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01/09/2016 18:39
good decision marc some people will blame you someone will think that incident fishy bcz it happened right before the dividend day but we all trust you you are the best CEO plz don't get upset and it's time to make some hard decision stop giving those daily 200 baps , reduce the 21 days activation to 7 days after 7 days inactive user won't get anything and also i will ask you to increase 3% share tax to 5% sharemarket became a children's playground it need to be stop right now for some cents profit some users blocking the market
abiotic
Traffic Value: $22.31948 Pakistan
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01/09/2016 18:39
@vecors... i dont want to argue with anyome... smile
NCONRADIE
Traffic Value: $249.68549 South Africa
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01/09/2016 18:44
This was the correct decision. This was the only decision that could be taken. 

Keep up the good work. We will recover from this like we always do.
mrabouissam
Traffic Value: $1,736.13358 Morocco
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01/09/2016 18:48
@vecors

why not at least let people says there opinions without your args !!!!

we should only say "BRAVO" or being deleted ????

abiotic has reason, we should all share the lost money not only members !!!

+1
stobb
Traffic Value: $159.22316 India
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01/09/2016 18:52
@bloodwolwo & @abiotic you 2 people not have even 5k share or invested 100$ and you all barking like "a millionaire lost his million $ "grin really strange people if you want to quit you can because this is a independent working site no one bounded or contracted by any specific time and we don't need haters and idiots we need trustworthy honest hardworking and dreaming positive people your word not helping our company even it is damaging our reputation and everything. "one bad day maybe change a person's life forever or for long time" but i believe this  quote is for losers and coward people if you have guts 10 bad day will not do anything to you and on 11th day you will shine like hell hot sun so MTVIANS TIME TO HOLD OUR HANDS TIGHT AND FIGHT THE SITUATION WITH OUR TEAMMATES AND OUR CEO(BEST) LET'S SHOW THE WORLD WE CAN MAKE A ONLINE EARNING SITE BETTER THAN EVER
  
Hoppa61
Traffic Value: $73,032.40453 Netherlands
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01/09/2016 18:52
@roidz

Put 300.000 @13 and I'll push you into the 20M+ group.
Perec27
Traffic Value: $944.5882 Czech Republic
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01/09/2016 18:52
Part members MTV go trying that "trick" to  hack bmf ))) but thay cant bcz thay not programmers of bmf wink
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