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sodnik
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15/05/2014 08:45
You could milestones for amounts of referred members smile

1. 10
2. 100
3. 500
4. 1000

Not sure about the BAP rewards though tongue
antu825
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15/05/2014 09:16
This can make a lot of fake ref,  maybe milestone for amount ads purchase by ref is more suitable grin
slosumo - Administrator
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15/05/2014 09:26
Yeh, ref spamming would be abused here. But we really lack some achievements imo,  that track how many active refs you have recruited.

Say a milestone for:
10refs , each clicked on at least 50-100 ads
25refs, each clicked on at least 50-100 ads
100 refs, each clicked on at least 50-100 ads
200 refs ...
...

Another example:
10 refs, each bought at least 1$ worth of ad packs
...

A third:
10 refs, each clicked on at least 1$ worth of ads
...


I mean the current achievements are good, but they're mainly focusing on purchases by refs,
and PTC people usually don't aim for that, so they perhaps don't bother referring that much.

In general, it would be better to have more achievements, closer together. The current gaps are HUGE. Plus it gives people satisfaction when they complete an achievement and then see another one that's not that far off and decide to work a bit more and they'll reach it. But if the gaps are too wide, then you complete the first few, then say, ah F*** it, it's too much work.

Of course, the BAP rewards for these "easier"  achievements shouldn't be as big as the current ones. Small but progressive.

Amazingly achievements(or even useless "badges"wink are what's stimulating people online the last few years. From games, programs, heck you even see it in real life each day via stickers etc.
Jo
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15/05/2014 09:35
Yea, we'll overhaul the milestones section at some point.

If you want to draw up the details, go for it! Just try to make it sustainable -- not giving away too much BAP, unless the achievement is pretty great.

But prepare a list I can send to the programmers; and if it looks good. We'll act on it.
ghinlop
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15/05/2014 09:49
I think line add 20ref, 10000 Click, 500$ buy ads. system add 500.000 BAP for upline grin

Refer 20+ friends, that view 25,000+ ads, and buy $2,500 ads, to receive 2,000,000 BAP
Progress: 20/20 and 25000/25000 and $xxx.00 / $2,500

How long i get it sad
slosumo - Administrator
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15/05/2014 10:29
I'll put something together later today. Is there any specific % of BAP you had in mind when making the current milestones? The current milestones BAP is about 8%,

I suppose adding some 5% should be fine considering that Recycling + games reduce BAP by about 25% total? Just so I have a general idea what to aim for.
Jo
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15/05/2014 11:31
Lower the better...
I don't think it really needs to be that high; as like you say; people just like to aim for stuff. Even if it's a meaningless account badge.

But a staircase of lots of little bonuses; related to ref activity, ad purchases, their activity, BAP gameplay, recycler pro upgrades, ad filters etc.

And obviously just try to make it cheat resiliant, by requiring a level of financial value to PV.
slosumo - Administrator
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15/05/2014 11:59
Alright, I'll come up with a couple ideas in a few hours.
tony
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15/05/2014 16:53
Hi I agree with your ideas...

In fact I ve just make a paid campaign in Bidvertiser.com. In two days it will be approved I´ll share it with you all if work for me...

Keep on going..
slosumo - Administrator
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15/05/2014 17:07
Here you go, this is the first draft. The old achievements stay, these are added. You'll see the BAP rewards are much lower, but these milestones are much more frequent and focus on many aspects that are great for PV, if users complete them. I've had much less time than I hoped I would today so it's just the basic idea. Tomorrow hopefully, I'll run some numbers and see if the rewards wouldn't hurt PV too much.



User milestones
Viewing milestones – justification 6.25$ total worth of ads for at least 10k views, activity rewarded
1. View 100 paid ads receive 500 BAP
2. View 500 paid ads to receive 1000 BAP
3. View 1000 paid ads to receive 1000 BAP
4. View 2000 paid ads to receive 2000 BAP
5. View 5000 paid ads to receive 3000 BAP
6. View 10000 paid ads to receive 50 000 BAP
 
Purchase ads – too big gaps here, doesn't encourage users to start with small purchases. Encourages users to keep buying more ads
1.Buy 10$+ worth of ads, to receive 1000 BAP
2. Buy 25$ worth of ads to receive 2000 BAP
3. buy 100$+ worth of ads to receive 5000 BAP
4. buy 200$+ worth of ads to receive 5000 BAP
5. buy 500$+ worth of ads to receive 10000 BAP
 
Ref incentives milestones
Activity (traffic) referral milestones, encourages people to encourage their refs to keep viewing ads on a daily basis. This will encourage people to click even on the tiniest ads, which can help deliver paid ads faster
This ones focus on quantity of users
1.  Refer 3+ friends, that EACH view 100+ PAID ads to receive 1000 BAP
2. Refer 5+ friends, that EACH view 100+ PAID ads to receive 1000 BAP
3. Refer 10+ friends, that EACH view 100+ PAID ads to receive 2000 BAP
4. Refer 25+ that EACH view 100+ PAID ads to receive 2000 BAP
5. Refer 100+ that EACH view 100+ PAID ads to receive 5000 BAP
This ones focus on longterm activity of users:
1. Refer 3+ that EACH view 1000+ PAID ads to receive 2000 BAP
2. Refer 5+ that EACH view 1000+ PAID ads to receive 2000 BAP
3. Refer 10+ that EACH view 1000+ PAID ads to receive 5000 BAP
4. Refer 25+ that EACH view 1000+ PAID ads to receive 10000 BAP
5. Refer 100+ that EACH view 1000+ PAID ads to receive 50000 BAP
 
Ref purchase incentives:
Focuses on quantity of users that purchase ads:
1. Refer 3+ that each buy at least 1$+ to receive 1 000 BAP
2. Refer 5+ that each buy at least 1$+ to receive 1 000 BAP
3. Refer 25+ that each  buy at least 1$+ to receive 2 000 BAP
4. Refer 100+ that each buy at least 1$+ to receive 5 000 BAP
5. Refer 500+ that each buy at least 1$+ to receive 5 0000 BAP
 
1. Refer 3+ that each buy at least 10$+ to receive 2 000 BAP
2. Refer 5+ that each buy at least 10$+ to receive 2 000 BAP
3. Refer 25+ that each buy at least  10$+ t receive 5 000 BAP
4. Refer 100+ that each buy at least 10$+ to receive 50 000 BAP
5. Refer 500+ that each buy at least 10$+ to receive 1 000 000 BAP
 
1. Refer 3+ that each buy at least 50$ worth to receive 5 000 BAP
2. Refer 5+ that each buy at least 50$+ worth to receive 10 000 BAP
3. Refer 25+ that each buy at least 50$+ worth to receive 100 000 BAP
4. Refer 100+ that each buy at least 50$+ worth to receive 500 000 BAP
5. Refer 500+ that each buy at least 50$+ worth to receive 2 000 000 BAP  
slosumo - Administrator
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15/05/2014 17:10
One question for Jo, and a reason why I put the rewards lower than they could perhaps be -
Will old users, who reach the new milestones criteria be rewarded for them when they get implemented?

My thought was perhaps partially ( say 50%) so they wouldn't feel left out, but you be the judge of that so I can adjust the numbers tomorrow for either case.
MarcdeKoning - Administrator
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15/05/2014 21:16
I'm sorry but this wouldn't stimulate me.
Most milestones are just worth $1.50-$3.
I'm not feeling any excitement to keep buying ad packs until $200 to make $3 tongue
These rewards are really small.
slosumo - Administrator
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16/05/2014 04:29
There are already incentives for big purchases ( the current milestones), and they are huge, probably even too high rewards (10% extra BAP basically). You raise the rewards too much and PV becomes unsustainable.

Most of PV's users are from PTCs and currently there's no "reachable" goals for them.

And these milestones are a lot more frequent, plus different types so you can't have too high rewards for each of them. And a LOT more people will be achieving them than the current ones, so due to that you have to cut the rewards quite a bit.
tupko
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16/05/2014 09:04
slosumo, I think you keep forgetting that BAP is not actual money, but potential.
and I think there should be no problem rising the rewards 2x or even more of that value.
You'll never turn 100% of BAP into $ unless you click on every single ad which is impossible if you don't upgrade
slosumo - Administrator
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16/05/2014 10:09
I know it's only potential, but this potential is on average 75-80% all used. So if a reward is 2mil BAP, you can expect that the user will actually click on (and recycle/spend on games the rest) 750-800$ worth of ads. So you can't simply grow BAP on trees. The current milestones use up a huge chunk of BAP so there's not really much room for extra BAP here.

Anyway, I'm just waking up every few hours right now, I hope I'll have time today to actually run some math and see how much the rewards could be increased.
slosumo - Administrator
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16/05/2014 16:56
Alright, I made a quick update. Problem I did with the first draft was that I was assuming that everyone would reach each milestone. But I think these updates rewards nicely progress and complement each other. So these should in my opinion be worth it while remaining sustainable at the same time.



User milestones
Viewing milestones – Total BAP reward after 10k+ views = 267 500 BAP
1. View 100 paid ads receive 500 BAP
2. View 500 paid ads to receive 2000 BAP
3. View 1000 paid ads to receive 5000 BAP
4. View 2000 paid ads to receive 10 000 BAP
5. View 5000 paid ads to receive 50 000 BAP
6. View 10000 paid ads to receive 150 000 BAP
 
Purchase ads – total reward after 500$+ in purchases 33 000 BAP  (total bonus 3.3% BAP)
1.Buy 10$+ worth of ads, to receive 1000 BAP
2. Buy 25$ worth of ads to receive 2000 BAP
3. buy 100$+ worth of ads to receive 5000 BAP
4. buy 200$+ worth of ads to receive 10 000 BAP
5. buy 500$+ worth of ads to receive 15 000 BAP
 
Ref incentives milestones
This ones focus on quantity of users  - total 66 000 BAP in rewards
1.  Refer 3+ friends, that EACH view 100+ PAID ads to receive 1000 BAP
2. Refer 5+ friends, that EACH view 100+ PAID ads to receive 2000 BAP
3. Refer 10+ friends, that EACH view 100+ PAID ads to receive 3000 BAP
4. Refer 25+ that EACH view 100+ PAID ads to receive 10 000 BAP
5. Refer 100+ that EACH view 100+ PAID ads to receive 50 000 BAP
This ones focus on longterm activity of users – 280 000 BAP in rewards total
1. Refer 3+ that EACH view 1000+ PAID ads to receive 10 000 BAP
2. Refer 5+ that EACH view 1000+ PAID ads to receive 10 000 BAP
3. Refer 10+ that EACH view 1000+ PAID ads to receive 20 000 BAP
4. Refer 25+ that EACH view 1000+ PAID ads to receive 50 000 BAP
5. Refer 100+ that EACH view 1000+ PAID ads to receive 200 000 BAP
 
Ref purchase incentives:
Focuses on quantity of users that purchase ads – total in rewards 1 062 000 BAP
1. Refer 3+ that each buy at least 1$+ to receive 1 000 BAP
2. Refer 5+ that each buy at least 1$+ to receive 1 000 BAP
3. Refer 25+ that each  buy at least  1$+ to receive 10 000 BAP
4. Refer 100+ that each buy at least 1$+ to receive 50 000 BAP
5. Refer 500+ that each buy at least 1$+ to receive 1 000 000 BAP
 
Total in rewards – 2 365 000 BAP
1. Refer 3+ that each buy at least 10$+ to receive 5 000 BAP
2. Refer 5+ that each buy at least 10$+ to receive 10 000 BAP
3. Refer 25+ that each buy at least  10$+ to receive 50 000 BAP
4. Refer 100+ that each buy at least 10$+ to receive 300 000 BAP
5. Refer 500+ that each buy at least 10$+ to receive 2 000 000 BAP
Total in rewards – 12 230 000  BAP
1. Refer 3+ that each buy at least 50$ worth to receive 10 000 BAP
2. Refer 5+ that each buy at least 50$+ worth to receive 20 000 BAP
3. Refer 25+ that each buy at least 50$+ worth to receive 200 000 BAP
4. Refer 100+ that each buy at least 50$+ worth to receive 2 000 000 BAP
5. Refer 500+ that each buy at least 50$+ worth to receive 10 000 000 BAP  
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