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slosumo - Administrator
Traffic Value: $28,438.4426 Slovenia
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07/02/2021 08:24
@jordy186 While it sounds an interesting idea in general, it would only make sense if we wanted to gather a larger pile of advertising budget that we knew we could use effectively. But if we'll stick with a lower marketing budget, that we know we can make a ROI on, then funding it doesn't make sense, as it would require for the game to make even more profits to breakeven compared to just us funding that.

For potential future projects that is definitely something we could be doing to offset some risks, but right now it doesn't make much sense - unless if after we launch the reworked UI and see a massive spike in conversion, in that case it could make sense to ask for additional funding for the full release, as we'd know conversion is much better, and we'd have a much higher chance of making a return on the advertising spend, and have more chance of hitting some of the trending spots.

So, we'll see how things go, and not completely rule it out just yet smile

@Bartosh I really don't feel like going into too much detail right now, so I'll just note down the general concept behind the cooperation:

1) We explicitly did not to want to hire someone who would "just do some SEO work and be done with it", and where we'd have to control/check on everything. If we did, we'd spend more time and money doing that, which we don't have. We were looking for a long term hands-off partnership, where they would do all the research, prepare all the content, distribute all the content, and look into potential additional paid options (such as writing articles or getting paid content on high quality websites), that we could agree on paying for if we'd consider them worth it.

If we want to improve SEO significantly, we have to move from the "slosumo prepare this and that" and stop micromanaging such things.

From all the past "mini SEO deals" we did in the past, this was by far the most impressive pitch they did, and the most complete plan they presented.

They are interested in a long-term partnership to potentially help us improve SEO on the rest of the site, and our payment structure is set up like that as well. There are some base payments and bonuses for completing certain milestones, or more accurately - reach visible results.

2) We're going for high quality things here. Custom written articles, content that they will prepare, after researching and comparing our competitors. And potentially any additional paid content that they will suggest us to buy from 3rd party sources.

3) No one is promising #1 rank here, both sides are sensible enough to recognize that is pretty much impossible to achieve with the level of competition out there for certain keywords. We do have a lot of room to at least move higher up the rankings in even the high-competition keywords, and also move to the top in more niche keywords. That's what the focus is on. We've gone for a minimum 3-6 months deal for a reason, and for many of they keywords even that is far from enough. But it is enough time to see many things improve and judge their work performance properly to see if we want to continue working with them, and expand the cooperation.
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07/02/2021 15:02
i guess some people are not happy today but for the site its good news =)

$5,449.82 Coin Flip Game
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09/02/2021 20:27

why not close that project and pay everybody in the list their 180%. 
the project has been going on to long.

Then create a new project instead and dont let it drag on for to long
This also gives other people the oportunity to step in again too.

would be nice if you could use your skills to trade the market here on mtv as well with big amounts to get it moving =) you seem to be good in trading =)
Traffic Value: $4,070.2228 Spain
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10/02/2021 11:58
Great job with the PBG, really good looking now.
MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
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10/02/2021 16:14
People are free to get their cash at any time, so it's not dragging on. They simply have the chance to finally get some upside after all this time and they're waiting for it.
Traffic Value: $477.38965 Poland
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11/02/2021 20:36
@slosumo thanks for the answer. It wasn't much into details but it's enough for me to see that you know what needs to be done, and you hire people that know it. 

It will take at least 3 months to see any significant results of SEO actions, optimally 6 months (in some cases even more). The competition in our business is tight as hell, it'll be a grind. 

Can't wait to see the results and these RPs finally going up smile  keep up the good work.

If you need to outsource writing of an article, I'd be glad to help. 
slosumo - Administrator
Traffic Value: $28,438.4426 Slovenia
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12/02/2021 07:08
@Bartosh Will keep it in mind. If memory serves me right you mentioned sometime you have a SEO agency or something like that - or why exactly you could help us with any additional outsourcing?
Traffic Value: $98.3883 India
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13/02/2021 00:11
hi. why cashout not happening every day in ppmg and long days in pbg? any issues?
orlan12fish - Administrator
Traffic Value: $5,500.61933 Guatemala
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13/02/2021 01:01

We did have some issues with Perfect Money in general, so we couldn't process PM cashouts in any website for a few days

This issue has been sorted and withdrawals are being paid regularely.

For both PPMG and PBG, we process cashouts within 24 hours. Do you have any pending cashout on PBG? We haven't had any withdrawal request lately
Traffic Value: $98.3883 India
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13/02/2021 01:21
ok. i sent my pbg and ppmg referr link to friends group, they told so i checked last cashout in ppmg was 11th and in pbg it was jan month. ppmg yesterday no cashout showing?
orlan12fish - Administrator
Traffic Value: $5,500.61933 Guatemala
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13/02/2021 02:37
Oh okay! I understand wink

Indeed, it looks like it's not being updated immediately. We'll check

But just for reference, we have currently a few players playing on PPMG right now and the cashouts that they've just requested were paid correctly

Regarding PBG, that's accurate. We haven't had any withdrawal request since January

In case your referrals are having any issue, you can request them to send a ticket to the PPMG/PBG support and we'll gladly assist!
Traffic Value: $16,533.40105 Belgium
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14/02/2021 09:21

Please withdraw my investment (+profit) in the Crypto 2 fund.
Thank you for doing a very great job!
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
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16/02/2021 19:38
Hi Marc,

About this:

Payeer stopped accepting casino-sites it told us.
Regulation has changed for them.
When we made PPG we asked them for permission and got it.. Now they revoked it.
This means the end of

When does the site stop running?

I'm asking because you still might be able to create value from the traffic. I'd suggest changing all the landing pages to explain that gambling is no longer accepted at payeer. Then you can offer a solution to one of our other casinos. You might even want to offer to swap their payeer funds for funds at the other casinos as a welcome incentive. If you get lemons make lemonade sort of thing
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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16/02/2021 22:57
"You might even want to offer to swap their payeer funds for funds at the other casinos as a welcome incentive."

This might get us in trouble with those same regulations.

That said, are people allowed to deposit Payeer into MTV/PV/PTC and play the casino games?
Should they be allowed to?

That said, telling Payeer viewers (more than just the 125x125 banners) about our other sites that they can gamble on should be done.
Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands
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17/02/2021 08:58
to be honest i think its useless as 99.9% of the traffic comes from PV and PTCshare ads. 
There is more value to just remove the website asap and remove all the advertising on our sites .

just accept that things dont last for ever and dont keep paying for useless traffic

With BMF i got that same kind of feeling, if you dont want to put effort in making it a great product then better take it off 
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
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17/02/2021 20:25
It would all depend on how much outside traffic the pages are getting. This is data that can be analyzed and if there are a lot of external links, that is basically free traffic.

There are whole businesses built around old links and link traffic.
Traffic Value: $576.2635 Honduras
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18/02/2021 00:45
Of course, depending on the traffic quality the website was getting.

If getting enough organic, I'd put a notice on the front page explaining what the Payeer problem is, display big banners with links to the other casino websites and convert that whole site into a blog about casino games in general, that way you build one more link of your website network for off-site SEO. 
The advantage, is that you keep ownership of a property with rank and backlins and could sell advertisement for that site here or PTCShare to make some extra bucks.
slosumo - Administrator
Traffic Value: $28,438.4426 Slovenia
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18/02/2021 07:18
PPG traffic is negligible. That said, if we do decide to keep the site up and running (cost should be minimal, but we'll look into that more when we make the decision), we'll most likely do something like that.

However, we're short on available programming time right now, and we've got a dozen of other little tasks/changes needing to be done with much more immediate benefit and importance.
Traffic Value: $73,032.40453 Netherlands
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19/02/2021 00:15
Congratz on getting debt-free.

Really a huge accomplishment by the whole team. Well done!
Traffic Value: $501.70676 Philippines
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19/02/2021 00:24

Great job guys!
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