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Catt
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01/02/2015 09:12
we are looking to create new products not slaughter existent ones grin
axl100
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01/02/2015 09:16
if PV fail to to do what is suposed to do (ads delivery) it will die too
polo26
Traffic Value: $2,211.17614 France
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01/02/2015 09:18
PV is a revshare so controlled purchases , this is not the solution

the solution are the products generator of funds net
-the targeted ads
-poker bap (to reduce bap debt and thus less pressure on PV)
-the slot game prgressif jackpot
-work with Microgaming to create a stand alone online casino and true target online casino players  and not only members MTV 
ect...

so in Priority the  Products (for me the chatroom does have a vital priority for PV/MTV it's a waste of time for prgrammers)

I regret to say, but for now PV is a ponzi to 90% Fortunately there at the games in PV / MTV otherwisei in this momment PV would be a ponzi a 100%


so if you do not want to swap every 5 minutes the priority must be the products
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sorry to be hard at my words, but MTV so much potential, but the system is still febrile
must go to the essentials


this year is decisive for MTV must not waste time with secondary projects But work on the blood of MTV which are the products,

 forget the chatroom, the new MTV interface ... it does not generate funds for the networks you can do that later when there will be a maximum source of revenue
hrjustinptc - Forum moderator
Traffic Value: $8,376.82638 United States
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01/02/2015 09:20
Yeah any sort of limits on the Bulk Ad purchases really does kill that Mega Upgrade potential. We definitely need to control something. At least until we can get the number of undelivered hits under control. I know at some point PV should have no problem standing on its own. Right now it is hugely dependent on investing into MTV. I can really see a time where there is not enough BAP for ads to consume. That will really be something interesting if there is no BAP to consume. With all the upgrades, BAP games and different pure revenue traffic options it is definitely possible. Right now we just need to get a handle on basic site functionality. It is definitely coming along it just seems like growth and debt has outpaced development for to little bit to long now.  
axl100
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01/02/2015 09:22
yes polo, the ad issues must be based on the profit, not on the sells
hikineet
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01/02/2015 09:36
Well I have to definitely agree with @mio2815 and @polo26. I'm honestly confounded & confused as to why most of 'Feb 1st - Daily News', @Jo was going on about creating a chat system. 

I mean let's get the priorities straight: The most important thing to do at this point is to generate profitable MTV products. A chat system sounds like something you'd do after all the essential parts of the business is stable. Not as something you work on before you implement the life blood of the business.

The most important thing is that withdrawing and depositing funds are never delayed. It's important that people are always able to withdraw their money any time they want with no delay. If there is even slight delay there will be major loss of trust with the business.

After withdrawals and deposits, it should be creating profitable MTV products that generate revenues for MTV and its shareholders.

As @polo26 said: Targeted ads, the online poker game, anything that can generate revenue. But custom chat? Why is this so important that that is all is talked about in the February 1st issue? Just chat function and Support Staff? How about what the programmers are creating for the portfolio that will generate revenues? This is very important. I can't stress that enough.

I hate to sound dramatic but 2015 will be a make or break year for MTV. It's time to buckle down and get to work with all the funds everyone has trusted to you. You can only do so many BAP swaps until people will stop injecting new money and wait until the money already in the system turns them a profit. 

So stop working on a custom chat (that will probably have many bugs when it's released at first anyway), and get the revenue generating products out there ASAP so that we get to the point where these swaps are a thing of the past and that the product portfolio could sustain the entire business. 
earnforthat
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01/02/2015 09:38
I agree with what most people said.
MTV needs more and more products-real ones that generate revenues, not filler products like more lucky casino games(we already got enough of them).
I hope that we could have a bunch of new products in this year.Or before June...or before March... or tomorrow.The faster the better.
It's a hard thing, but I believe as long as Jo and the crew have idea what they're doing, it'll happen someday.

But I'm with this idea.
I may be a bit greedy...As long as this idea lowers the share price, it's good for me.What I'm doing now is just buying shares and nothing else.

edit:
And about what hikineet said...how about making the chat room a product?
It's better not to give it up when it already got some process.
Like you'll have to pay 0.0005(or any price)for each comment.That would work.
totosky
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01/02/2015 09:49
I think the programming queue should be shown publicly. So that the crowd can vote which will they like to be prioritize. After all most of us are shareholders anyway.
NCONRADIE
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01/02/2015 09:53
earnforthat


I didn't see hikineet's suggestion but I like it. I think it should be a simple process of setting up the system to consume 1 BAP for every forum post and every line of chat that you make. This will also help to reduce the Debt. 


That will then make it worth actually putting in the effort of developing the forum and chat.
pongol
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01/02/2015 09:56
if someone purchased 1 ad pack from Paypal will pay 1.42 $...and you give back to him 1.402 $...why he want to do that ? 
crystal
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01/02/2015 09:58
It isn't that difficult. MTV wants money to fund their projects, this is coming in through shares, FTQ and PV. The problem (with the exception of shares) is that currently there is more investment money coming in than is spend/needed for creating new money making products. This way MTV can no longer keep it's promise of ROI to the investors.

In the end, MTV/PV is a company like any other, the fact that is uses crowdfunding does not relieve it from the fact that is has to make money to repay the investors.

In the start it was: 'If you give me 100, I can make a product that makes money and pay you back 2.5X100"
Now it is: 'If you give me 100, I promise I will think of a product that makes money and pay you back 2.5X100"

I like the first one better.....

So two things need to happen. The amount of money coming in needs to decrease, as long as there are no concrete plans (as far as we know of) that require these vast amounts of investments there is no use. It will only add debt.

Jo needs to think of concrete money making projects and be open about them to (re)gain trust of the investors. PV is a great way of aquiring funds for MTV, but now they need to be put to use. I personally have the feeling that this gets increasingly more difficult. Illustrated by the fact that the brainstorm page is asked for ideas.

Jo needs to be honest (which is is about clearly mentioning that the growth must be controlled) but also about the future plans. Adding offices isn't going to make money, it is going to cost. I would like to know more about the products that are going to be developed, because the changes is FTQ, and some games aren't going to have the yield required to achieve the growth needed.

As illustration: In order to clear the FTQ (5.5mil) in 100 days, a growth of 15% a DAY is needed, starting with 30k daily result. If this can not be accomplished the FTQ is not sustainable and the que (debt) will grow out of proportion. (When the sum of weekly results is smaller than the weekly FTQ repayment debt that needs to be cleared the que grows, and vice versa)

So concluding, yes, the growth needs to be controlled, but better still, we need products. If there are no plans, stop the investments, and/or do not allow more than you can account for.
dguy
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01/02/2015 09:59
You will make money if you reinvest again or buy in bulk pongol
dguy
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01/02/2015 10:06
Growth doesn't need to be controlled Crystal. It will self regulate if the debt grows and returns slow down. People's expectations will come down normally with the payment schedule.

The only thing we need to figure out is if the site will stall. If it can't stall then we should leave it alone.

There is no time limit and no guarantee to pay back the money at a certain time. The only guarantee we have is to our advertisers, and that is for delivery of ads and we an always remove that
shaquille3
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01/02/2015 10:08
If you limit the buying to only 1$ / day for the first week who would buy adds with paypal or payza? Considering the fee for a 1$ add campaign and the real return for a dollar it doesn't make any sense to buy adds. The fees are reasonable if you buy bulk and not just one campaign.
I hope you think about you largest base ( paypal ) before you limit the buying to only 1 dollar, I can guarantee that it will be suicide.
idlig
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01/02/2015 10:09
As always, sorry about my english, but because of this, do not ignore my experience.

- Reduce (or change at least) the ref commission system (require new active referrals or something). The level of re-invest in PaidVerts is extremely high and it's a good thing. However because of this, the ref commissions also extremely high and constant. Many users here demote the PTC model, and it's a mistake too. But if you reduce the commissions, you have to help the sponsors, keep the things in balance:
- splash pages, new banners, live banners, welcoming email templates, etc
- Try with real advertisers (they don't hit the cashier button all the time).
I can't edit my topic, but still highly recommend my idea: 
https://www.mytrafficvalue.com/forum/brainstorm/progression.html
- Change the 186% / 250% plan, unstable.
- More games
- etc

About the controlling idea: hard to tell, because too much and too radical changes. But the main direction is good.
SolidSnake
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01/02/2015 10:14
Just wanted to state that there are also products that would definitely attract advertisers on a site with such a large member database...

1. Grid Advertising
2. PTP Advertising
3. Maybe offer some PTC packs that would not grant BAPs but offer many more hits in a profitable for the site scaling.. etc :

$1 for 1500 hits of $0.0005 value for the members (PV earns $0.25 for every purchase)
$10 for 15000 hits of $0.0005 value for the members (PV earns $2.5 for every purchase)

..and allow the advertiser to decrease the number of hits while increasing the amount earned per view for the members for faster delivery. This is typical in all PTC sites and is working fine if there are enough members clicking those ads.

These prices will still be competitive among PTCs and would definitely attract advertisers.

4. Also the 1 BAP per forum post idea (suggested by NCONRADIE) would be interesting as well as improve its overall quality (preventing non-sense posting).
klikdiva
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01/02/2015 10:14
Agree so much with crystal and some others that commented earlier

Jo, please, get the priorities straight, MTV needs money making projects built asap. 

- Don't waste months and thousands of dollars in developing games when the Microgaming stand alone casino can start yielding profits in days or weeks. (you can build anything you want later, if you really need to have everything custom as it seems it's more of your liking), but now it's imperative to get revenues lightning fast.

- Get down to building the Targeted Ads System, it's been months you've promised this.

- Make the backlog of ads available for anyone that wants to spend some extra time watching (the TE or grid solution)
crystal
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01/02/2015 10:16
@dguy, you are absolutely right that that will eventually happen, and a lot of people will be dissapointed. The problem I have with that approach, is that Jo was creating the expectations himself by repeatedly promising exponential growth, and I would like him to live up to that promise for as long as possible.
empabh
Traffic Value: $1,295.02281 India
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01/02/2015 10:22
WE NEED PRODUCTS!!! 0.8 mil unassigned funds!!! and u put chatroom on a higher priority!!why??
why cant we just buy games ? and make another site to make more members play?
these things should be done ASAP... and i dont think with the current work force it is possible...
OUTSOURCE the work extensively and get it done fast!!!
I suggest let current programmers manage the site and please let another software company make games like poker , satoshi mines etc ON A DIFFERENT SITE and then spend money to promote it ..
we want players from every where not just mtv/pv members!!

i already suggested once for opening a dating site and also to have mobile apps for the same and mobile apps for the games..
druth8x
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01/02/2015 10:27
Well, the 1 BAP per post and per line would shut me up. I'm too frugal.

If we have to go that route, How about Mods charge that BAP for the nonsense posts? The users that were find would have to know how and why they were fined...and I bet we'd get them all repeating the question why was I fined without reading the forum rules and mod decision.

These nonsense posts are the ones asking the same question that already been asked over and over again, "where are the ads", and I'm sure a few more.
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