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mytraffic34
Traffic Value: $4,129.21683 Netherlands
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01/02/2015 08:13
+ 90 Darknit
yallit
Traffic Value: $2,148.94717 Philippines
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01/02/2015 08:15
@druth8x, I was about to answer but looks like you finally got what Jo is implying.

I'm curious as to how the share price will look like if this is implemented in the next Swap.
ShareAd
Traffic Value: $3,866.40125 Nepal
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01/02/2015 08:19
Whatever your Plans are You are going to implement
So, no need to ask for Comments
You will do like you do Always but limiting the ad purchase for per day per user is not a Good idea
hrjustinptc - Forum moderator
Traffic Value: $8,376.82638 United States
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01/02/2015 08:20
I know what happened now I opened the delete link in a new tab. I have made sure that it wont happen again. I apologize that you had to reformat your post all over. 

Now as for the topic here I do not think that limiting ad sales like this is the right answer. Maybe limit Bulk Ad sales per group. So each group can only purchase a percentage of their group each day. It would only apply for groups above group 4. Each of the lower groups can purchase $1 per day. This would make it a bit more work to move up the groups. Even 10% limit would allow more then enough Bulk Ads to maintain each group. So someone with 1.5mil BAP would only be able to spend a max of ~$48 per day. If we can get ad visit delivery as fast as other PTC sites the cheap traffic and targeted ads will be more appealing. There would never be a limit placed on those options.  
lali6757
Traffic Value: $3,553.39286 India
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01/02/2015 08:20
but what of share exchange for bap u hav to close trading of bap for share then only u will success in get rid of become fade up in one month of recent swap.in this way u can start in turtle speed to make up pv never to swap status forever.ok just do what u want to do .but what u hav any word of reason being delay of friday/saturday ad issue.on one hand u r showing so concern on issue of 6-12 month letter to happen but other hand on current friday/saturday ad issue delay u hav no word even for consolation which clearly shows how u becomes so bogus in ur thinking
yallit
Traffic Value: $2,148.94717 Philippines
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01/02/2015 08:26
@nhice_01, the idea of Jo here has really nothing to do with the number of ads in circulation. It's mainly to ensure that PV doesn't grow too fast in terms of debts. Your idea of "50visits + 2100 BAPs = $1.05 Bulk ads" will indeed control PV's growth. I'm not sure if you did the math though or else you won't be even suggesting it. With your suggestion, you will only get $1.05 gross return from your purchase (2100 BAP X $0.0005 = $1.05). And if you factor in the 5% ref commission, you will only get a net earnings of $0.9975. That means you're not actually going to profit at all. Instead you're guaranteed to lose.
nhice_01
Traffic Value: $312.03684 Philippines
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01/02/2015 08:27
Got it now. I just read it again. Lex explained to me what Jo means. I got embarrassed, I woke him up for this. grin Silly me. grin Sorry, kindly delete my first post. grin
yallit
Traffic Value: $2,148.94717 Philippines
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01/02/2015 08:37
@nhice_01, no need to delete your first post. I don't see any violation there. We're simply brainstorming. But I may need to delete the one above this (the one wherein you use Filipino language) because unless it's a Filipino thread, we're supposed to use English. wink
dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
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01/02/2015 08:39
The fear here is that the marketplace will naturally slow down as debt grows and returns shrink.

The only problem is that the solution is to artificially slow the market down which is the same thing with assumptions. Why not let investors/advertisers let the market find its own level? If you try to force it on people you could create unintended consequences. Money always wants to be free and most efficient and trying to control where it flows tends to cause people to withdraw it
nhice_01
Traffic Value: $312.03684 Philippines
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01/02/2015 08:42
@yallit: nah, i prefer if you would delete it. i insist, i got a (soft) knock on the head from my Bf because of that, and he's laughing at me at the moment. please. sad
nhice_01
Traffic Value: $312.03684 Philippines
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01/02/2015 08:45
@yallit: Please? cwy
hrjustinptc - Forum moderator
Traffic Value: $8,376.82638 United States
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01/02/2015 08:55
I like the idea of limiting Bulk Ad purchases everyday not just after a swap. It should be harder to ascend the groups compared to being able to buy unlimited bulk ads. There is no need for someone to spend so much on Bulk Ads really. The Bulk Ads shouldn't be used as a way to purchase an unlimited supply of BAP. When someone purchases Bulk Ads they are buying traffic. If they want massive traffic then they should buy Cheap Ads or Targeted Ads once that is built. 

I have thought since the beginning that BAP is far to easy for everyone to gain. BAP creation should have always had some sort of limits. I know in the beginning Bulk Ads was the only option for traffic so it was fine then. There is huge potential for free members here which is what PTC websites attract. The only real issue is advertisers want traffic delivered quickly. I am not sure how we are ever going to catch up on 400mil+ undelivered hits. If ad deliver does not increase soon we are going to need way more active members clicking ads. Even with 90k active users 400mil ads is a huge number even with 90k clicking ads. With the new $1.05 ad pack the new purchases are now being delivered faster then the old campaigns.
mio2815
Traffic Value: $32,608.39303 Germany
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01/02/2015 08:59
Dear Joe, I hate to complain but as you´re asking.

You wont have any need to control any PV Growth as long as you can´t keep the promises PV and MTV make. Please stop these pipe dreams and get the work done first.

1) Get the cashouts done in 7 days as promised (No one will invest if he can´t get his money back)
2) Support tickets need no be answered fast.
3) Keep referral commission as it is. (that´s why PV gets promoted and grows so much)
4) Ads need to come on regular basis not everyone has the time to sit in front of the computer the
    whole day if or if not ads come.

And most important We don´t need new BAP SWAP dreams we need NEW PRODUCTS !!!
Luckyguy
Traffic Value: $780.17861 Pakistan
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01/02/2015 09:03
agree with mio2815
Dear Joe, I hate to complain but as you´re asking.

You wont have any need to control any PV Growth as long as you can´t keep the promises PV and MTV make. Please stop these pipe dreams and get the work done first.

1) Get the cashouts done in 7 days as promised (No one will invest if he can´t get his money back)
2) Support tickets need no be answered fast.
3) Keep referral commission as it is. (that´s why PV gets promoted and grows so much)
4) Ads need to come on regular basis not everyone has the time to sit in front of the computer the 
    whole day if or if not ads come.

And most important We don´t need new BAP SWAP dreams we need NEW PRODUCTS !!!
axl100
Traffic Value: $60.77536 Greece
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01/02/2015 09:07
instead of limiting of the purchases is bether to limit the campaigns value to $1, so if u buy $1000 ads u get 1000x $1 campaigns and 1000 1 cent 1% ads
NCONRADIE
Traffic Value: $249.68549 South Africa
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01/02/2015 09:08
My ultimate strategy is to keep on getting more and more shares in MTV. 

PV is one of the tools I use to achieve that. So BAP swaps actually works in favor of my strategy as we are getting a lot shares cheaply.

Controlling the ad purchases after a BAP swap has no impact on my, as I in any case already do my own mini BAP swaps when market conditions are favorable. 

As a Shareholder though, I have to agree with a lot of other comments here. Products, Products, Products. The more, the quicker, and the more profitable we can get products, the better. 

I'm still small fry at the moment but I will become a significant shareholder here over time. I just don't want to be a shareholder in a company that doesn't keep on producing revenue generating products. 
Catt
Traffic Value: $1,193.5857 Brazil
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01/02/2015 09:08
@axl100
therefore killing the mega user upgrade...............
axl100
Traffic Value: $60.77536 Greece
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01/02/2015 09:10
@catt, the mega upgrade is already dead
axl100
Traffic Value: $60.77536 Greece
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01/02/2015 09:11
and every 1 cent ad deletes 2 cents of debt
cloud4me
Traffic Value: $2,066.50335 Korea Republic of
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01/02/2015 09:12
I agree with mio2815 except ref commissions.

its 10%(5+5) if Jo cut it in half on purchase, but its still good enough I think.

honestly 15% is too much.
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