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@Yallit--

that was an example of what could happen if we have no minimum sale restriction in terms of price.

If it were an unrestricted market in terms of price, you probably would find people who would list their BAP at 1 BAP 1 share--just to see if anyone were desperate enough to pay it. Kind of like those BAP prices and share prices you see listed on the back pages of the lists--people asking for 1 million BAP for 1 share, people who are listing shares for 25.00 and up.

Those are "pie in the sky" listings--the kind of outrageous offers people list that they pretty much KNOW will probably never happen, but if they DO happen--hey, you're set. If JO puts buying restrictions and selling restrictions on both the share to BAP market and ad packs, then he needs to put a minimum price that is in line with the typical spread we see in that market--or dollars to donuts people WILL try to sell BAP at outrageous prices. It's part of the "all the market will bear": mentality.

BTW, there's a post hanging around somewhere from some guy trying to sell his account--I told him he couldn't (this was later this evening, a few hours ago)--you might want to track it down and see if you can sort him out. I wouldn't normally have talked to him, but it sat there ignored for a bit and no mods were around at the time, or you were busy elsewhere or something.

gloriabieser
Traffic Value: $1,133.25862 Ghana

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14/02/2015 12:10

@chrystalia - Sorry, do you have Skype? - Steffen wants to talk with you - His Skype ID is: steffenbieser
Email would be ok too, but I do not know if it is allowed to post your email here, and do not want to break any rules

killa-007
Traffic Value: $11,038.09657 Slovenia

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14/02/2015 12:15

i agree with yalit, i said yesterday(or today early in morning) to delete few top groups and then if he send add issue for 100 it woudl be almost like ad issue for 200k for users in current groups.(ppl with 20m+ bap will get ad value for group 11 which will be much lower for them but half less money could be used for ad issues and we would have same results(same money per group up to group 11)

yallit
Traffic Value: $2,148.94717 Philippines

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14/02/2015 12:43

@chrystalia,

I think you're forgetting the fact that you are not selling BAP in the marketplace but rather you're selling shares in exchange for BAP. If it's the other way around, then the scenario you mention can happen. So unless the cash price per share goes down to $0.0005, no one will sell his shares for a price of 1 BAP. And if there's someone who makes a mistake in doing so, those shares will be eaten up real quick.

rocketdad
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14/02/2015 12:58

@yallit In your own opinion what should i do right now. Do i have to exchange all my baps to shares then sell shares to cash? Or just keep my group level 11 and waiting the daily ads to come. As of now i have 13M+ baps planning to group 12.

Please help me I have no money to invest for the future bap swap if it happens.

yallit
Traffic Value: $2,148.94717 Philippines

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14/02/2015 13:51

@rocketdad, you shouldn't panic. If you let emotions dictate your decisions, you will end up losing. Plan ahead. Start diversifying your funds. I wouldn't advise you to go for Group 12 though. Best to stay in Group 11 and use a portion of your PV earnings to buy shares and even invest in the FT plans. Should you decide to go for Group 12 still, best approach is to buy shares and sell for BAP instead of buying ad packs.

adxm123
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14/02/2015 13:59

So was reading all the comments and I was thinking about what Jo wrote. So I have a proposal about limiting the Bulk Ads buy. How about this:

week 1. = user can only buy 1x Bulk Ads worth 1,05$ per server day
week 2-3. = user can only buy 2x Bulk Ads worth 2,10$ per server day
week 4-6. = user can only buy 3x Bulk Ads worth 3,15$ per server day
week 7-10. = user can only buy 4x Bulk Ads worth 4,20$ per server day
week 11-15. = user can only buy 5x Bulk Ads worth 5,25$ per server day
and so on...

...so i hope you get the point, if dont: The weeks are calculated on the number of Bulk Ads that you can buy per server day (Exp.: week 4-6., that's 3 weeks, because you can only buy 3x Bulk Ads per server day and in the next period of 4 weeks, you can only buy 4x Bulk Ads per server day )

With this we can extend the Period of Contorilling the Paidverts growth...

druth8x
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14/02/2015 14:01

All this does is "buy time".

It doesn't solve the main issues.

chrystalia
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14/02/2015 14:05

druth8x

That's assuming the main issues are indeed solvable--that is debatable at this point.
But yes, there are a lot of stopgap measures floating around. Some of them would actually work in a more stable model that was just dealing with a temporary issue.

adxm123
Traffic Value: $239.31754 Slovenia

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14/02/2015 14:05

@druth8x Yes I know, but it's better to have 3-4 months more time to make a plan on how to solve this problem, than do the same thing again...do you want a BAP SWAP every 2 months?

rocketdad
Traffic Value: $7,032.09309 Philippines

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14/02/2015 14:21

yallit - Forum moderator

I forgot to mention earlier that I had already invested $500+ from my PV daily ads earnings to my 250% FT plan.

Is it advisable to the rest 7 million baps of mine to exchange into shares and sell those shares to cash then invest to fast track now? If I not mistaken share price now is at very low.

druth8x
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14/02/2015 14:39

Well, Rich says that he is going to prolong the Swap until we get programmers who are producing products.

This way we can hit the ground running post swap with money making, not debt increasing products.

And, maybe then, we won't need a swap for a year+/ever.

So, if that's the case, maybe the 1 Adpack a day/1 Share A Day is only temp as well, until those new products start raking in the money, esp from outside sources who don't become part of the "debt problem".

axl100
Traffic Value: $60.77536 Greece

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14/02/2015 14:47

Lol guys, if someone from PP read ur posts in this topic, the PVs acc will remain limited forever... Stop thinking for PV like it is HYIP, its against the PP's TOS

Lizalovic
Traffic Value: $284.35377 Slovenia

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14/02/2015 14:54

Well like someone said PV is reducing debt and now JO change the rules because 2 much people invested in plans and the debt exploded in 1 week like for 1 or 2 millions of $..its ok that he has to change 1.05$ for ad pack but to limit that is i think not the best thing i think that would be the start of the end for this company because all this new users that pumped from 01.01.2015 until 15.01.2015 the money in for buying BULK ads are here for that not for the plans or the MTV thing! MTV is just making the debt bigger and not removing it....i know why he want to limit the BULK AD he want to BUY time for him and big investors here so far....they have there shares and they can earn big $ every week ...the only problem after this swap was the PLANS people invested so much there i think i the month of january it made more then 50% of all debt or even more...and now you want to limit BULK ads good luck with that...

melrah
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14/02/2015 16:48

look at my PV solution i propose. I would like your opinion

https://www.mytrafficvalue.com/forum/brainstorm/the_pv_solution/1.html#p152790http://

yallit
Traffic Value: $2,148.94717 Philippines

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14/02/2015 16:55

@rocketdad, you can do that OR you can just let that 7M BAP be consumed by the paid ads that you will receive. This way, you won't have to buy bulk ads to maintain your Group for quite sometime. The cash you'll get from those paid ads can be used accordingly (cashout, shares and FT).

Mkmohan
Traffic Value: $52.95832 India

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14/02/2015 17:19

In my point of view ,for pv to be 'STABILIZED' Jo shouldn't be changing the system as often as he is.Nowadays its almost become like a habit to wait and see what changes were implemented today and how to adapt to it. So,I don't like the idea of Jo taking over and limitting each user's control. Afterall pv's plans were successful for so many years only because users liked it and continued to freely invest in those plans.

so,pv wouldn't gain if its users lose!!

Users' gain is pv's gain!!

Lizalovic
Traffic Value: $284.35377 Slovenia

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14/02/2015 17:31

I remember his words after the swap and before the swap he was saying: we will be bigger and sky is the limit and big ads and all hyped up and no swap this year and all good things....now is febarury 12. he is talking about the swap coming in april thats even quicker then i expected...the debt has skyrocketed because of the plans that 4x after the swap...he experimented with ads relases and cron and a lot of stuff an every experiment went wrong now this with ads not even being realesed and now you want to limit the bulk ad purchase to buy time....my estimates are that in 1 month when you do all those changes with PV we will lose atleats 25-50% users....you need to sit down and really think about what to change about PV but to limit bulk ads is the death of PV that is 100% sure!

jure25
Traffic Value: $1,779.68609 Croatia (LOCAL Name: Hrvatska)

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14/02/2015 17:40

Even if every member earned around one buck daily on paidverts its still better than anything out there, i said that few times, it seems people dont get that.

Lizalovic
Traffic Value: $284.35377 Slovenia

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14/02/2015 17:50

jure25 it is better for now but after the next swap and the limit when he does that PV will be history...we will lose 25%-50% users...you can expect cashouts before this chages a lot of them...you think people will be here clicking ads for few cents a day? the only reason why we hade this skyrocket with members we have 225.000 new users after the swap and 95% them come here because of PV and not because of MTV and when he makes this site like every other PTC site the people will leave and cashout....

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