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Controlling PV Growth...

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Mageweda Traffic Value: $3,470.72088 Sri Lanka 1 like this post 0 people 08/02/2015 05:06 Jo, Why don't you raise the buying ability daily ? If you are giving 100% more after one week, let"s make it 15% more daily. This way you can get the member stuck to daily task and they will have a more motivation I think. donsoulz Traffic Value: $7,212.45963 Malaysia 1 like this post 0 people 14/02/2015 09:20 Bump..for those want to know what will happen in the next swap.... hc77 Traffic Value: $217.18505 Croatia (LOCAL Name: Hrvatska) 0 like this post 0 people 14/02/2015 09:34 If you want my opinnion how to reduce debt,lower  the bets in most played games like roulette and flip coin to half,thats a good start,as gamble is the only way for the site to be in real profit/lower debt. hispanomc Traffic Value: $9,334.85757 Spain 1 like this post 0 people 14/02/2015 10:28 Jo, i think you are in the correct way. You have understood that we do not need to pay such profitabilities for such huge investments tied with huge amount to visits to deliver. If someone wants to make a big invest should do it on mtv, not on pv, because investing big amounts on pv just complicate its future adding tons of undelivered visits. PV should be more like a PTC than an investment site, because when more investors than expected make huge investments suddenly all your true ads sold and revenues of games turn into anything or too tiny to payback them. And also our 'manpower' (pv active users) becames nothing to the huge amount of work (visits to deliver). I also like that idea of the 'membership' as clean revenues for the company allowing you to buy some more adpacks and grow faster. Those members as they have bought a year membership must follow a reinvestment plan for a 'long period' to make profitable its membership, so its a member tied up, not a member tying up pv with loads of visits to deliver. I also think these memberships should combined with the ad filter (each membership has an ad filter pre-set) and we should set a max amount of ad filter of 0.015$. We cant allow a user who never clicks an ad for its real value or less. If we sell visits for 2 cents we all should be clicking for less than 2 cents, at least some or most of the clicks. Also these memberships should increase your ref comissions. Maybe we could terminate with purchase comission an just give clicks comission. Just 5% or even none for free users. Memberships should give an interesting comission so we reward our members expanding the bussines because they are who make us grow. There should be no limits of refs with any membership, just changing refs comissions and increasing the oportunity to buy more ads. Also we should develop those targeted ads. We should start to collect user information. Likes, dislikes, interests, job, hobbies... so we can make an authentic advertising system interesting for true advertisers. Maybe theses ads could 'replace' activation ads. And we can make more important this activation ads by needing to click them for clicking any other ad. Also you should study lowering the profitability before next swap, so we can lower a bit more profitabilities for mtv so we make more sustainable this system. Our investmets should not take more than 6-12 months to pay them back so low the profitability until this is possible, even if 10 million are invested on that round.  I know my ideas must be developed but i think that are the right way to turn mtv into a serious company. Sorry for my bad spelling. Hope you will understand me. yallit Traffic Value: $2,148.94717 Philippines 5 like this post 0 people 14/02/2015 10:51 If and when the purchase restriction is implemented, the strategy that people will be employing is that they will set their ad filter to $0.99 or buy a vacation mode so as not to consume their BAP while buying ad packs daily to move up to the higher groups. If there's a good percentage of membership who will be following this plan, we will have fewer members who will view ads. Even if we forget about the 400M undelivered clicks, with majority of members simply buying $1.05 ad packs daily but not viewing any ads (except for the 8 activation ads), the number of undelivered clicks will pile up. Just 20K members purchasing ad packs daily for a month will already give us 30M ads that needs to be delivered. Instead of setting the max purchase limit to 1 ad pack daily, perhaps, abolishing Groups 11 - 15 would be the appropriate plan of action to get rid of big investors from PV. chrystalia Traffic Value: $496.56049 United States 3 like this post 0 people 14/02/2015 10:57 @yallit-- that is indeed one strategy that would work--and would have exactly the effect you detailed so well. If JO implements the really bad new idea he had today and also restricts shares for BAP, then we could also expect the big guys to buy their single ad pack just to sell the BAP--and they could price it as bad as 1 share, 1 BAP--effectively getting shares for 1/20th of a cent, no matter how high the actual share price is at the time. This would, of course, only work as long as we small fry have shares to sell--but it would effectively strip the small investors of all of their shares at fire sale prices. Also, there will be some stupid people who will try to win their way into a higher group playing BAP games--but on the whole I would expect BAP game play to take a dive, unless the big guys decide to dabble and try to get more BAP to sell. However you slice this pie, if he does what he talked about today rather than what he talked about a few weeks ago, it is shabby repayment for those of us who busted tail--TWICE--to get where we are--because it not only takes away all we worked for twice, it closes all of the avenues to get it back in a reasonable period of time. hispanomc Traffic Value: $9,334.85757 Spain 0 like this post 0 people 14/02/2015 11:03 Yallit, have your read my post above? i have proposed to set a max ad filter of a bit less of 2 cents (real value of each visit). I think this could solve the problem you said. druth8x Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States 0 like this post 0 people 14/02/2015 11:05 If its as simple as setting your filter to 99c....then Rich will have to remove that ability at least until they reach a certain BAP lvl, aka have clicked a lot of ads again. PV is Active MTV is Passive For the most part. If Mike is allowed to be Passive on MTV, and many more follow him, then this whole thing will make the undelivered ads problem "10 times" worse. I know that if that strategy is actually a solid one...meaning if you have enough cash to buy Ad Packs daily and not need PV Ad Issues for more cash, that even I, someone who is willing to click 500+ ads a day, will employ that strategy as well. gloriabieser Traffic Value: $1,133.25862 Ghana 0 like this post 0 people 14/02/2015 11:08 @chrystalia - Yes, this is true, my husband told me this about a week ago, that Jo will close every single loophole, and this way no one can really cash-out without losing a lot. This was smart from his side, but not good for us.  chrystalia Traffic Value: $496.56049 United States 2 like this post 0 people 14/02/2015 11:12 gloriabieser In the daily news 13th, not far after the sinking ship picture, I detailed a basic strategy to help people protect their assets while we figure out what's going on. I would suggest you go read it, and implement it immediately. If JO abandons both of his bad plans, you'll be no worse off. If he implements either plan, you'll be better off, and if he lists ANOTHER new plan, I will come up with a way to deal with it. It's really a bad idea to p*ss off someone who has plenty of time to think, and understands math and finance  druth8x Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States 0 like this post 0 people 14/02/2015 11:16 I really hope that they limit it to 1 sell a day as well, if they limit it to 1 buy. Also would be nice if they kept a floor of 40 BAP (it was that, then 200, then 160) or something. This way the shareholders who have the money and no interest in PV, can't do that idea of selling All their Daily BAP for lots and lots of shares. Though, that's a good strategy as well. There are a few strategies around, so far that mean, that I wouldn't bother clicking ads, as these would be much better ways of getting ahead. chrystalia Traffic Value: $496.56049 United States 1 like this post 0 people 14/02/2015 11:20 druth8x I have already come up with about a half dozen ways I could get out of clicking ads, or fleece people, or both, even under the current system.  Unfortunately, my morals wouldn't let me take advantage of them anyway *sigh*. I knew a LONG time ago that I would never get stinking rich the easy way--since most "easy" ways involve someone else losing. deepses Traffic Value: $299.7196 Turkey 0 like this post 0 people 14/02/2015 11:25 @ paidverts - Administrator Please explain us MTV swap ?  How will you do that? gloriabieser Traffic Value: $1,133.25862 Ghana 0 like this post 0 people 14/02/2015 11:27 @chrystalia - I go there right now, thx gloriabieser Traffic Value: $1,133.25862 Ghana 0 like this post 0 people 14/02/2015 11:35 @chrystalia - Wow, what is wrong with me?  The most important part I did not see when I looked at it the first time. Now I got you. Don't want to write it here, but yes, this is a good idea. We had thought about this, but not straight enough. Seems to be all we can do right now chrystalia Traffic Value: $496.56049 United States 1 like this post 0 people 14/02/2015 11:37 gloriabieser Read it carefully, copy it down someplace, and follow it--it will offer the best protection for your assets in every scenario I can think of right now, as long as the website still works. Where you have a lot of shares you will be in a good position on this one. gloriabieser Traffic Value: $1,133.25862 Ghana 0 like this post 0 people 14/02/2015 11:40 @chrystalia    I copied it, thx  chrystalia Traffic Value: $496.56049 United States 1 like this post 0 people 14/02/2015 11:46 gloriabieser No problem .  But, REMEMBER-- you need to be willing to lower your ad filter, and click every single ad--including the 4 micro packs, and the recycled ads--every day. The trick is to get as much cash for the BAP you get from those shares, as quickly as possible. That's why I am also buying the mini upgrades--because it is worth paying the 2.99 right now to make sure ads are delivered daily. And trading the shares for BAP is the biggest part, because that creates an instant profit--which will MORE THAN COVER the 2.99 mini upgrade fee. So you get ads fast, daily, in quantity--and the money from the extra BAP you get pays for the upgrade, with cash left over. Get the picture?? I know--I did the math . And I have my upgrade, and have been trading shares for BAP, and clicking between 150 and 300 or more ads a day, for the last several days. yallit Traffic Value: $2,148.94717 Philippines 1 like this post 0 people 14/02/2015 11:49 @chrystalia, no one's going to sell their shares for just 1 BAP price. Because if they do, members will buy those shares and sell their shares for cash. Just imagine if the cash price for share is $0.05 and then a big investor sells his share for 1 BAP. I would buy those share immediately because 3100 BAP will give me 3100 shares. If I sell those shares for cash, that will give me $155. I actually agree with the restriction for selling shares in exchange for BAP but not as drastic as 1 share a day only. The reason why we hit the peak too soon was due to hitting 227 BAP price too quickly. Since there are no restriction with selling shares for BAP, those who waited were able to ease into their Groups by selling all their shares which puts as back to square one. In addition to abolishing Groups 11- 15, reducing the ROI is an alternative option to the "1 ad pack daily idea". I've explained it here: https://www.mytrafficvalue.com/forum/brainstorm/controlling_pv_growth/8.html#p130180 With a reduced ROI, our accounts won't grow too quickly. gloriabieser Traffic Value: $1,133.25862 Ghana 0 like this post 0 people 14/02/2015 11:54 @chrystalia - Ok, got you, and will do the mini SUU for that reason. Ad filter how high? Problem is, I do not have that much electricity time here in Ghana, but Steffen can do it in Berlin. He had his filter on $0.005, but changed it back to $0.01 a moment ago. I will tell him now

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