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Controlling PV Growth...

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tjtan0929 Traffic Value: $203,540.80977 Malaysia 2 like this post 0 people 02/02/2015 16:24 it's very annoying to limit Bulk Ad Purchases they getting the bap only for the future earning but you can controlling PV growth by issue smaller ads mean there will be less value of bulk ad purchase daily and PV can stop throwing money into the market because PV are rocketing everything here the growth of debt and result will surely be slow and low income4u Traffic Value: $211.82055 Pakistan 0 like this post 0 people 02/02/2015 16:26 Dear axl100, it's My own Idea now if you mind it then Sorry! Sorry! Sorry! Thank You! melrah Traffic Value: $1,000.33154 Cyprus 0 like this post 0 people 02/02/2015 16:28 @income4u when swap is happening is what? pv gives us shares insted of pay as in money. so it gives as shares in a high price the pv goes to market and buy those shares from us (that we put there for sell) in much lower price. with this way pv restock with shares and the diffrens of the price that pv gave us (we bought by force thats the meaning) from pv buying from the market is the actual benefit of the swap (is the actual depth that is removed) with your idea the price will be very high in the market so not any much help with the depth removal income4u Traffic Value: $211.82055 Pakistan 0 like this post 0 people 02/02/2015 16:37 Dear melrah, Ok! Hmmmm! Thx 4u Reply about My Idea! All The Best! axl100 Traffic Value: $60.77536 Greece 1 like this post 0 people 02/02/2015 16:41 @ melrah, Cab is good investment but if u cant drive and dont know nothing from cars u probably will lose ur money, if u want to learn to drive and work like taxi driver u prbably need to lost some money to learn pythagoras Traffic Value: $4,007.84228 Netherlands 17 like this post 0 people 02/02/2015 17:03 Here is what I see as possible consequences of your new gamechange.  I don't know how much money comes from the Bap- games, but if everybody starts with a 1$ Ad, there will not be much activity in that area for a long time. Then there is the problem, that a Bap Swap does eliminate the BAPs, but not the ads.  And considering, that at the time of the Bap Swap those will have accumulated  and cannot be processed any more for some time through the lack of BAP, I see definitely  a problem there. Sure you envision more users and as such not a lack in BAP in total and that might be true,  but that doesn't take into consideration that the individual account cannot take more then it has. And if you have overhead from the past and you will, you have a problem.     Tell you my strategy to yours: I take care of cash, set my adfilter to 0.99 and keep buying ads. With other words, I will block addelivery at all at first and still block it as much as possible later.  Mainly because I know, that I can grow faster then the others, if I avoid to exchange as much BAP as possible.   And then after I have collected BAP, I even may sell my BAP for shares.  Have many users doing this, you have no users clicking, not buying upgrades and plenty of BAP nobody is willing to exchange for ads some time.        The lack of BAP in the individual accounts and the unwillingness to give them away can also be the same reason you cannot implement targeted ads or sell cheap traffic.   Then there is the problem of revenue. Right now most of the revenue for MTV comes from PV and if that is reduced to the levels you imagine for months, it can have consequences for the FT  starting to take years instead of months. That in turn will have consequences for the dividends of the shares. So you will need to swap there long before, before you BAP swap, because you cannot hold the wall of investors you have there, after you bring PV in even more slowmotion, then you already have. And did I already mention, that with your new market invention, you will not have less investment in 250% but more?   It might be possible to bring PV back to the roots, without swapping FT, but only after you have a product that creates similar revenue to carry some load and you don't have it.   So basically it is a bit damn if you do and damn if you don't situation even if you do a full swap. Simply because you can't swap the ads you have to deliver and a full swap may need a lot longer for the restart then you think.  Justin123 Traffic Value: $11,013.37121 Czech Republic 2 like this post 0 people 02/02/2015 17:39 pythagoras: you are right with 250% plan. Jo should take into account, that with ftq market, 250% plan will be not only alive for more than another 1 year, but also almost everyone is able to buy it. 186% plan can be scraped right away, because its easy to buy 250% plan from people flipping investmens. Only thing keeping myself from buing $500 premium and starting reselling 250%plan investments is that i don't want to sell all shares atm and also I don't believe Jo will keep this option available for another 1year+. hasicro Traffic Value: $1,823.14127 Croatia (LOCAL Name: Hrvatska) 2 like this post 0 people 02/02/2015 18:17 well honestly...when the next bap swap happens if the investments are limited, 1$ daily just isnt enough for me, im in group 7 nearing group 8, and thats where i want to be after the bap swap, with only 1$ daily depending on the issue received we will be always on 0-1k bap...so my plan is, if this happens, to invest in the 250 plan and just wait it out for 3-4months, then ill be able to push all my money in at once and be in group 10 which is kinda my goal atm... 1$ a day will kill PV in my opinion, the system it self will be sustainable, but it wont be as user friendly as it is right now. it just wont be the PV we love and finance. well thats just my opinion, prove me wrong when it happens Jo, id be glad if you do Whynot Traffic Value: $4,289.08875 United States 0 like this post 0 people 02/02/2015 18:45 Would you mind reading this idea, please. https://www.mytrafficvalue.com/forum/brainstorm/debt_removal/1.html#p130741 martyboy Traffic Value: $1,685.37887 Lithuania 7 like this post 1 people 02/02/2015 19:28 JO, don't make Paidverts as investment/hyip/ponzi program! We need true advertisers, true money from advertising opportunities, companies and so on... Now everyone are interested to grow their BAP's, invest to BAP's and not to advertising. Many of then even don't know what to advertise, they are interesting only to make from $1 - $1.55. And that's is a problem in my opinion. I don't want to write long, just want to make you understand that Paidverts is a advertising product, MTV is for investors!!! THANKS. pedrovigario Traffic Value: $983.3735 Netherlands 5 like this post 0 people 02/02/2015 20:01 @pythagoras Well done!!! Bullseye! I agree with all... killa-007 Traffic Value: $11,038.09657 Slovenia 3 like this post 0 people 02/02/2015 20:33 mtv needs external money source, as i said in daily news. If we have milions of game that only pv/mtv members use they wont bring big profits. I mean people will put more money into bulk ads then into gambling everytime. So this is why we need new site where we can implement all those game and advertise this new site for big gamblers(casino site) its huge undertaking but it bring huge revenues. Imo it wouldnt be so hard to make casino website, but it would be hard to attract millionaires who are willing to gamble. If we would pull top 10 casino web-page, there would be no problem with huge ads everyday. we need external money source. whether its casino, or real estate or bets, simple betting option on football, basketball and other sports. All of those would bring profit(1st and 3rd for sure). with betting mtv takes 5% of each bet or smth like that. I'd say for starting betting option should be implanted first since its not so complicated and there are easy and efficient revenue stream. So consider doing that. izhan_mc Traffic Value: $1,934.23432 Spain 0 like this post 0 people 02/02/2015 23:17 @Jo, In general, I like ideas that bring sustainability for the system, but after BAP swap I think that would be better doing the following: With a new list of products ready to deploy (multipoker etc..) and during previous weeks saving 1M$, I would commit BAP swap. After that, instead of limiting bulks buy, it would be better idea reducing profits per dolar invest invested, i mean: First week, 1,05 $ becomes into 2200 BAP, second week, 1,05 $ becomes into 2400 BAP and so on until actual profit (3100 BAP). Meanwhile in those weeks, I would give very huge daily ads with money that was previously saved + new money from investments. Doing this, we would have more investments than limiting the number of buys, keeping the money flowing and also letting BAP race to reach higher groups and also pushing demand for buying new bulks but holding off debt. So i think the key is always the same, supply and demand. If a lot of people want to buy bulks give them less profits (beginings of BAP swap), if no one want to buy bulks give them higher profits, this "regulation" would keep debt in a constant that should be totally removed with products. PV is just a compromise, between convenience and sustainability. In my opinion, today PV needs to keep more atention to sustainability. Hope this helps, thanks for reading axl100 Traffic Value: $60.77536 Greece 1 like this post 0 people 02/02/2015 23:31 The BAP swap is not needed, (at least not forced) , just delivery optimisation. Any use of force is demonstration of weakness i think and is damaging the image of the site emoarg Traffic Value: $101.56537 Argentina 1 like this post 0 people 03/02/2015 00:54 @Jo: PV is a great idea. But as you said, it needs to reach its own sustainability. With my little knowledge of how the system works I would suggest: * Better ads delivery so that all ads are clicked and PV does not need to refund. * Stability in the amount of money delivered in the daily ad issues. This will generate more trust in the system. Perhaps new calculations are needed. I offer myself to analyze the numbers (I am a mathematician, I have a PhD) and give you some concrete suggestions. Contact me if you think I could help (and if you want my help, of course). doctor9 Traffic Value: $16.39334 Bulgaria 0 like this post 1 people 03/02/2015 11:52 @Jo I read some of people concerns. The main idea is to create controlled growth of PV after the debt swap. In other words, we are trying to avoid: - jumping fulminant up the groups - encourage the harder work, instead investing a certain sum and wait for the big ad issues to double, triple and more the ROI. - and last, but not least - to make the spiral growth of PV into some kind of limited circles growth. So, solutions could be the following. I stay behind the idea i spoke of: - one user can purchase $1 ad per day for the first 7 active days of purchases. Next 7 days with purchase, the limit is $2 ad per day, etc. I think this will slow a little the growth of PV. But some users insist they populate the upper groups. We can give this chance with the following penalties, of course: - each user can jump up one group higher only for a period of one day; - the cost could be, as follows: BAP Group 2 ........ 24 $, which will ad automatically 12400 BAPs, but the user produces 4 Bulk Ads only for this sum (such bulk for 24$ suppose can be produced, using extras like banners, etc. or could be created if not) BAP Group 3 ........ 48$, which will add automatically 49.6K BAPs for 16 Bulk Ads only. ... BAP Group 5 ........ 180$, which will add automatically 99.2K BAPs for 32 Bulk Ads only ... think you got the idea. And, as i said, we will try to make from the spiral certain circles, which should need more energy to get over. Here we can add an additional requirement. For the groups 5 and higher, this requirement could be a certain quantity of MTV shares, as PV is being part of MTV anyway. F.e. we could require not only BAPs, but a quarter (of needed BAPs for a higher group) in MTV shares (based on the lowest share price), too. Even more, for groups 10 and above we could require half of needed BAPs in shares. Well, i know this could sound shocking, but will solve some problems. Perhaps some calculations and simulations could be made, but the restrictions for sure will limit and control the growth of system for some needed time (why not a year of sustainability before another swap debt?) May be this is not the best idea, but the model should look like something like this. Greetings, thekool1s Traffic Value: $1,195.35083 Pakistan 1 like this post 0 people 05/02/2015 15:48 The debt is being created because we dont have enough products which generate tons of profit. We need games other products like faucets etc. Link shortners grid etc. This is what is causing problems. Multiplayer games are must and they will generate tons of profit for sure. Lets hope till the end of the years there will be enough products generating enough revenue. misai Traffic Value: $6,867.67145 Portugal 2 like this post 0 people 05/02/2015 16:37 @Jo  I'm all for a more sustainable PV,and I will support any changes that will ensure PV keeps going, but we can't repeat the same actions over and over expecting a different result. You need to take into consideration that most people here don't even care about what they are advertising. They just care about accumulating more BAP and getting on that top group as soon as possible. They forget that this a PTC and that they need to view ads. So you have a bit of a conundrum here. You have tons of ads that need to be delivered but people don't really want to view them, so they block them with the ad filter preventing their BAPs from being consumed. On the other hand if you take away people's ability to grow their BAPs, how are ads going to be delivered? I think the current delivery system is flawed. It needs to be improved. Users need to actually view ads for the system to work. I'm not aware of the current amount of debt, but it would be interesting to know how many ads each user would need to view on a daily basis, during the next 6 months, to actually make a dent on clearing the debt. Maybe have a minimum number of ads you need to view for each 1$ that you invest?  thekool1s Traffic Value: $1,195.35083 Pakistan 1 like this post 2 people 05/02/2015 17:28 The main problem we have  undelivered hits is because of 2 reasons 0.0005$ ads and the 30 seconds timer on them.  This need to be solved and its upto Jo how he wants to do it, Second just an idea i am copy pasting from my original post I was thinking of what jo said in his post that he will limit the buying of ads after next swap. I was thinking of alternative which can control the growth too. And it would be very easy to apply. Now here is the Idea. If you have worked on ptc sites you can rent Referrals every 14,7,4 days depending on your membership. What Jo can do is also introduce memberships for buying ads. example below. Standard membership will be free you will be allowed to buy ads every 14 days. With Max limit of maybe 200$ This can be set by Jo. Golden membership will cost maybe 150$ per year and it will allow you to buy ads every 7 days. Again with a max limit which can be set by Jo. Ultimate Membership Will cost maybe around 1500$ per year and it will allow you to buy ads every 4 days. I dont have any idea for this one to place a Max limit on this upgrade too or not. What do you think guys? Which will be better for the system? The Jo one or mine [img=20x20]https://www.mytrafficvalue.com/assets20150204/images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/img] Remember all the Values are just example they can be set as Jo wishes [img=20x20]https://www.mytrafficvalue.com/assets20150204/images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/img] MichaelKline Traffic Value: $960.97608 United States 0 like this post 1 people 05/02/2015 18:48 Because $1 does not mean much to someone who had a level 11 or so after the swap, my suggestion is to make ad pack purchases controlled by share volume.  Share Volume * Current Share Price * Purchase Control Percentile = Permitted Daily Purchase Volume ($1 Minimum)

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