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He was a bit late, and bottom groups ads took time to get delivered as they turn larger in size.

So he skipped large groups as cron/server reset was incoming - we should get larger ads today hopefully

polo26
Traffic Value: $2,211.17614 France

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22/07/2014 11:15

we must find a solution to the future
because I think that small groups BAP are in constant expansion (normal most are free members)

I don't know rather send full of little ads they should be combined into one big ads of same value,(eg instead of sending 5 ads of 0.001 send 1 ads only of 0.005)
this would relieve the server and the waiting list

in most sites members receive only 4 ads per day, but here some members can recevied up to 80 ads a day

( with all option actived upgrade/recycled ads)
it will be unsustainable with growing current members

QuilhosKing
Traffic Value: $6,128.74944 Portugal

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22/07/2014 11:22

+1 polo26.

I received 114 ads in one morning and more ads trough the day.

I think it's better to prioritize the groups with more points. They receive the ads first since they are the ones who invest money to reach that goal.

But Jo need to do something about ad issues. I have sure if we grow more, it would take days to send the ads. We don't have so much members like that and you see the time that takes. Imagine with the double of the members.

BosKi
Traffic Value: $1,734.91622 Poland

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22/07/2014 11:36

We still have to bear in mind that everyone that invested needs their ads delivered. If you decrease the amount of ads your ad campaigns would take much more time to be completed.

QuilhosKing
Traffic Value: $6,128.74944 Portugal

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22/07/2014 12:10

I have ad campaigns pending for so long.

From 30 June and it's 598/2300.
From 07 July and it's 461/3000.
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And so on. And i'm poiting only the "big" ones and not the small.

Jo
Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain

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22/07/2014 12:20

That's an "active" campaign.
Pending hasn't started yet.

But yea, there are 4.5million undelivered clicks. I think we'll have to do some big ass bulk random issues throughout the week. Send out 500k clicks for $0.001 each.

* Get your ad filters at the ready

slosumo - Administrator
Traffic Value: $28,438.4426 Slovenia

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22/07/2014 12:32

Jo, these undelivered clicks will become a problem eventually. What about adding a random "static ad" each user has, that each user can view perhaps even 100-1000x/per day if they choose so, for say $0.001/click. This would solve a few problems problems:

- free users could earn much more if they were willing to work
- because there's tons of free users that would probably be willing to do this they would deliver those views VERY cheaply
- new users joining would have this ad constantly available and wouldn't have to wait for new ads. The "micro ads" is great, but I think PTCers are used to simply just have ads available to view without first clicking a button.
- Also these ads shouldn't clog up the server a lot as they would be delivered pretty much throughout the day and not in one single time frame.

Should be a relatively fast & easy thing to add for the programmers. Thoughts?

QuilhosKing
Traffic Value: $6,128.74944 Portugal

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22/07/2014 12:35

You are right Jo. It's my bad saying pending instead of active

hrjustinptc - Forum moderator
Traffic Value: $8,376.82638 United States

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22/07/2014 13:39

I agree there should be ways of distributing the undelivered clicks much faster. If there are 1000s more smaller value ads constantly being issued. The filter will actually become an absolute necessity lol. One way or another traffic needs to be delivered efficiently. Even though ads do have a 180 day refund rule.

I would really like to see more put into randomizing the ad distribution to unique users. Sometimes with the micro ad packs and other ad issues I get many of the same ad from the same campaign. There is way more then enough members for each to only get one ad per campaign.

Jo
Traffic Value: $8,649,585.93592 Spain

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22/07/2014 13:54

We can issue a lot of ads very quickly if we want to. I'm just trying to avoid flooding the system with tiny ads. As that pisses people off.

But with 20,000 active users; sending out 5 tiny ads each; and we've delivered 1/40 of our total pending clicks in an instant, for virtually no cost at all.

And tiny value ads are the most economical to issue; as they have the highest rate of recycling. So they consume the most BAP per dollar.

It's always a balance though. Whilst we want to push people to buy the ad filter; holding them to randsome is pushing it a bit far lol

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And maybe we can make a second version of the Micro Ad Packs.... that give you 10 x $0.001 ads upon request. And we set a daily limit on the total number of packs that can be requested each day. Then first come, first served sorta thing!

slosumo - Administrator
Traffic Value: $28,438.4426 Slovenia

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22/07/2014 14:03

Yeh that could work. I know the money from these ads has to be taken away from somewhere so probably the idea would be to put a % of each daily ad issue's worth(or a fixed, say 100-500$) towards the next day's pool for these micro ads. But I think the amount could be much greater than 10x/user as most people wouldn't bother to click on them. 30-100/day could easily be an option imo. And rather than send the whole bulk I think it'd be better to simply have 1 available to click, and when you've clicked it another (for a different campaign) would appear, all until you've either reached your daily limit, or the pool has been emptied. So people would only click on how many they have time/will to click on instead of being forced to receive all. If any money remains in the pool it gets rolled over to the next day.

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