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Catt
Traffic Value: $1,193.5857 Brazil
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30/11/2014 23:03
@yallit
just reinforces my concerns
bigbadmoose
Traffic Value: $520.60691 United States
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30/11/2014 23:08
Yallit if they get paypal to sign on it would surprise the hell out of me. Cause paypal would look at it as a unstable business and not allow them to have a account. They would have to make some major changes to get paypal to go along with it.
yallit
Traffic Value: $2,148.94717 Philippines
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30/11/2014 23:39
@moose, From what's been circulating, the admin decided not to include Paypal during the launch and will be added by Tuesday when the site is stable to avoid disputes from members who can't wait for the site to stabilize. So they may already have the approval from Paypal.
tupko
Traffic Value: $32,122.18249 Croatia (LOCAL Name: Hrvatska)
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30/11/2014 23:43
@mike, program is unsustainable even if people buy upgrades, it's simply not enough to cover the debt raise. It's pure math, just look how PV is struggling everyday to lower the debt as much as possible with all it's powers: games, daily tax, upgrades, fast track 250% plan(MTV)... with the biggest accent on games and fast track plan...

what does digadz have? only upgrades, which are postponing member's earning for a little bit (buying the program more time before they run into huge debts)
not everyone will be buying upgrades and the system will fail eventually,it's only a matter of time like with every ponzi/pyramid, more people needed to feed the pyramid. do you see everybody buying upgrades in PV? No!
only 4654 accounts are currently upgraded(mega+mini upgrades) that's im guessing about 10% of all active members on pv.
You can see that even in PV, upgrades (unlike games and fast track queue) aren't major debt removers and the system cannot be solely depended on them.

I'm still putting my bet on 6-12 months before they shutdown if they keep their business plan like this, even sooner if majority of people get it through their blind and deaf minds that this system is unsustainable...

ALWAYS QUESTION SUSTAINABILITY!!
pythagoras
Traffic Value: $4,007.84228 Netherlands
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01/12/2014 00:10
@ yallit 

angel Oh no... such a surprise..... 
MikeMazzone
Traffic Value: $1,181,925.44366 United States
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01/12/2014 00:28
You guys do realize the with a multiple group system it doesn't take that much money to maintain a sustainable payout.  The system is not transparent at all, so there's really no way to know how much value of ads they're issuing to each group each day.  How would you know if the higher groups really got more value in their ads that day?  The major threat to sustainability would be in paying to keep the site loading really.  

I'm impressed with this effort.  If I didn't see how many people buy those upgrades at paidverts, I would be in the camp that says digadz is certainly doomed to fail.  I doubt the members at digadz will ever make as much there as they could with paidverts, but I could be proven wrong.  

Overall, it's great that another site is attempting to copy the paidverts model, I think a site like digadz is long overdue.  We have a lot of complainers about paidverts, I'm very interested in somebody offering something similar.  I've often been willing to tell complainers that if they don't like paidverts, go start their own ptc.  Looks like some one is actually trying that.  If they sustain themselves and grow, we may even learn from them.

They don't even have the 180 day guarantee for delivering ad views on ad bundle purchases that paidverts does with bulk ad purchases.
yallit
Traffic Value: $2,148.94717 Philippines
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01/12/2014 00:45
Mike has a point here. And I believe he's not really saying that the DA is sustainable but instead he's saying it can last for more than 3 months. There are a lot of players who don't really know how the program works and they're bound to buy upgrades without a second thought. And just now, I saw a post in MMG wherein the person thought that he/she will earn a daily % from his/her ad pack purchases. lol!

Even some familiar sponsors don't know how the comp plan works and they're advising their referrals to buy upgrades.

Although, Adbonuz may give them a bad publicity if they don't resume payouts and earnings. But on a second thought, a lot of members ignored that the admin owned TrackYourIncome as well, so they may simply gloss over the current situation of Adbonuz. They may also resume AB, now that DA is back online and getting sales.
MikeMazzone
Traffic Value: $1,181,925.44366 United States
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01/12/2014 00:55
DA admin is on FB.

https://www.facebook.com/unisound8?fref=nf
yallit
Traffic Value: $2,148.94717 Philippines
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01/12/2014 00:59
From what I know of, he's not the admin. He was the one tasked to create a video to explain the comp plan.
tupko
Traffic Value: $32,122.18249 Croatia (LOCAL Name: Hrvatska)
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01/12/2014 01:00
sorry mike, I respect your opinion, but I disagree with you to a certain point,
multiple group system is a very clever design - your daily payout depends on the volume of your account which is a good feature to buy the system more time before debt becomes too big to return to members.
it may not take that much money momentarily, but eventually it WILL fail because the system promises more money than it can afford as I already said several times again.
It's only a matter of time before the system starts to stagger, getting in debts bigger than it can afford,
and that's gambling and any person who doesn't blindly invest first and ask questions later will know what is at stake when dealing with ponzies.

it's cool we got a "competition"LOL (a bad copy of paidverts) but I can't say I'm happy about them since their business model is risky and unsustainable. 
they could've at least implemented flip a coin game which is one of the easier and most popular games to code in the site and more importantly biggest debt removers...

@yallit
 exactly, not sustainable, but more lasting than your average ponzi scam...
MikeMazzone
Traffic Value: $1,181,925.44366 United States
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01/12/2014 01:13
Yes I understand the debt will grow and grow with more users, but they have no guarantee of any kind of minimum payments on that debt and the only proofs of anyone making good on debt seems to be done entirely via social media, which is very strictly moderated I've found out.

With paidverts, you only have to click 1 activation ad to be eligible for 21 days worth of ad issues.  With digadz, you have to click 10 dig ads to be eligible for 1 day worth of ad issues.  

Their daily stats really suck right now too, they're still on a 2013 calendar for some reason.

Daily Stats


Daily Sale Volume list
Date/Time Topic Action
10 Dec 2013 Total sale volume for $12,000 and was generate to Dig Value Units...
9 Dec 2013 Total sale volume for today $9,000 and was generate to Dig Value Units...
8 Dec 2013 Total sale volume for today $7,000 and was generate to Dig Value Units...
tupko
Traffic Value: $32,122.18249 Croatia (LOCAL Name: Hrvatska)
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01/12/2014 01:25
that's one of the ways how they raise the value of the ads distributed to members, if you buy 1$ ad you're actually buying 50 views valued at 0,02$ same as pv.
by forcing every member to click 10 activation ads every day, they're raising the value of each purchased click to a min. 0,025$ per click.

and as you said heavily moderated social media, fishy stats... it looks bad for their future...
yallit
Traffic Value: $2,148.94717 Philippines
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01/12/2014 01:50
@mike, your account is active for 15 days and you don't need to click 10 activation ads to do so. You can only click 1 Dig Point (that's what they call their BAP ad) which will extend your account status for 7 - 15 days.

The 10 ad requirement is for the Dig Bonuses. This is one of their additions which PV doesn't have. The Dig Bonuses is for anyone to get additional Dig Points and/or Paid ads. From their FAQs, the paid ads that you may get from the Dig Bonuses section will not rely on Levels. So lower levels have the chance to get a big valued ad. This is a treasure hunt page wherein you may get Points or $ but you may end up with nothing as well. You can skip this section if you don't want to spend your time searching for bonuses.
MikeMazzone
Traffic Value: $1,181,925.44366 United States
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01/12/2014 02:07
Does anyone know where they list how many digadz points are required to reach each of the 11 levels?
daniel04280
Traffic Value: $2,218.90192 Korea Republic of
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01/12/2014 02:10
@Mikemazzone

2.7million to 7.5million points
newguy1
Traffic Value: $17,897.90531 United States
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01/12/2014 02:10
Mike. You can find the chart under "Get Started" in your dashboard to the right, and then click on "POINTS, VALUE, BONUSES" and scroll down. 

Daniel, he wanted to know where to see the points for all levels, not just 11. 
MikeMazzone
Traffic Value: $1,181,925.44366 United States
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01/12/2014 02:27
Thanks, do you know where they publish the numbers for how much value of ads they issue to each member of each level each day?

I wonder if they'll be around long enough to launch their e-commerce marketplace ads.  These guys could very well be the next Zeek Rewards.
newguy1
Traffic Value: $17,897.90531 United States
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01/12/2014 02:34
Not sure yet. He says this in his news... "We want a business fair for everyone so thats why we open and distribute the VALUE Ads tomorrow."     


I guess we'll find out soon how it will all work. 
MikeMazzone
Traffic Value: $1,181,925.44366 United States
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01/12/2014 02:41
Where do you see this news?

Paypal is supposed to be available on Tuesday.
newguy1
Traffic Value: $17,897.90531 United States
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01/12/2014 02:42
It's on the main page when you log in. It's in a big yellowish beige box and starts with "
Dear value members,"
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