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alva5763
Traffic Value: $264.40909 Turkey
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08/12/2019 17:39
Maec I do not know if your reply was aimed at me but I was not making a personal attack on Vicura. I merely wanted to know if such a low margin was profitable. My opinion is anyone can do their own thing as long as it does not beak rules.
I am active on ptcshaew and paidverts and believe we can make money if we keep working on them.
vicura
Traffic Value: $4,969.3683 Spain
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08/12/2019 17:55
selling at 0.0006 and buying at 0.0005 give you 20% benefit, -3% tax = 17% pure profit
MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
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08/12/2019 18:27
My reply was meant for Klikdiva, of which I deleted the message right after.
klikdiva
Traffic Value: $1,701.2323 Honduras
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08/12/2019 23:52
vicura
Feel however you want to feel. It was your humongous sell offers the only thing available to see snail-slowly moving on the market in the last few months, and obviously, any comments related to the market are always of interest to concerned daytraders, especially those of bigger traders.

The opportunities were there, and I used the ones that came my way to grow my RPs number the whole year, but unlike yours, none of my bids took more than hours to clear at a time when 50-70 pages of sale offers were selling in about 2 weeks or couple days less. Profitable and fast enough for moderate and patient traders like me.


You just said it, you "got pissed when "whales" were blocking the market back in 2016", but then you went and did exactly the same or even worse annoying thing when you got the chance and now nobody can express how pissed they feel with you when you are the one doing it, right?
totoer008
Traffic Value: $1,804.70567 France
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09/12/2019 03:28
I think we should concentrate on what works the best. Clearly bulk ads isn’t working when people only think about profit. I am against trading baps for cash but it won’t disappear. Maybe we should implement mixes from other projects to make daily issues bigger. How about what Diversity fund is doing ? Maybe invest in online projects and then distribute wealth ? Why not invest in low key structures ? Like Mintos or crypto.com. 10% on stable coin isn’t bad if it gives pure profit. I mean the  « problem » of PV and ptc isn’t that they are bad but just need some tweaking to make it worthwhile. People are clearly after profit on our sites let’s make it possible and sustainable, I really think we should brainstorm on small ideas that could really work. To be honest, the managing team I have no doubt in your true intentions but let’s be honest : shares are low, ftq still not paid, low ad issues. I haven’t made a single withdrawal in ages. I mean in three months of use in pretty legit sites I earned far more than here since 2015 and I don’t have to active. I don’t have any problems to give time but let’s face it, some stuff just really don’t work. Marc as the head of this company, sometimes it’s better to own your mistakes and make it first thing to correct what’s not working.  
el7blanco
Traffic Value: $3,681.91012 Switzerland
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09/12/2019 07:30
potentially we should increase the tax
jordy186
Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands
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09/12/2019 19:02
with these prices its almost better to buy back baps from a part of the ad issue money .....if you sell an adpack and give 2360 baps to the user and buy it back through the market it only cost $0.35 at the moment 
totoer008
Traffic Value: $1,804.70567 France
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09/12/2019 19:08
It’s one of the reasons why I am against the bap market. It does reduce debt but at the same time don’t have an incentive to buy ad packs anymore. I use to buy them to advertise websites. With the market no need anymore. It creates a leech system.
richiem
Traffic Value: $680.27326 Philippines
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10/12/2019 02:53
I look at the BAP market as something that separates the real advertisers to the clickers.

It is also a supply and demand thing.

Right now, people have a lot of BAP they are willing to sell for a lower price.

When people run out of BAP to sell, the price will go up and it will make sense to buy bulk ads again.

Then there will be a build up of BAP. And the cycle starts again.
richiem
Traffic Value: $680.27326 Philippines
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10/12/2019 05:17
The links to RockPaperScissors and 9/10 from the Achievements page doesn't work.

https://www.ptcshare.com/member/games/rps.html
https://www.ptcshare.com/member/games/nine_out_of_ten.html
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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10/12/2019 16:22
I think the supply/demand on PV vs PTCS is going to be different.

On, PTCS, you only need the BAPS to maintain your Ad Issue at whatever Buffer you want (be it 1 day, 1 week or 1 month). So, all the excess BAP can be sold at whatever price you want to get money now for other ventures or to day trade on the market. On, PV you can buy RP with the excess, and in theory, the RP will go up way more than other ventures, given time.

BTW, I thought when the price had hit a floor and that for a week or more my 17 buy bid looked like it was going to stay there forever/until I pulled it b/c mid 20s was the going rate, that most of the loose BAP were removed already. But then news/notice that Ad Issue had dropped yet again hit and wham bam thank you, ma'am, I've been able to buy at 11. 17 was like the highest and now we have 1 1mil block at 15. If Ad Issues drop again, and if timed right, the rate could drop again, either back to this rate or even lower if this is still the rate. If the Ad issue is based on no one buying Bulk Ads do to the market then I see no reason why the cycle won't keep repeating itself.

I wonder what would happen if Admin started buying BAP and removing the BAP debt by canceling the BAP, with a part of the ad Issue $. That said, over at PV, I still get my BAP from the Market, and Ad Issues are tiny there as well. And at least for that Market while there is still profit there vs BA, it's not that big that everyone and their momma would opt for the Market BAP.

Bottom line, as always, we need our Ad Issues to come from max like 10% from BA, the rest needs to come from other pure ads, other ventures like our games/casinos/BMF/WC, etc. It's not the market that is the issue, it's the source of our Ad Issues that is.
stark100
Traffic Value: $729.96203 Hungary
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10/12/2019 16:45
Not only the news and decreased ad issue but a bigger win in games can move the market down. Now the gamblers can quickly make money from baps at whatever price. 1 million bap winnings can push the price to 0.0001.
jordy186
Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands
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10/12/2019 17:45
what you said about admin buying baps with part of the ad issue money was something i already suggested a few posts ago. It might not be a bad move
dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
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10/12/2019 18:59
It might be a good idea to commit 5% or 10% of revenue to buying the BAPs at 30 cents on the dollar instead of issuing ads at full value
dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
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10/12/2019 19:33
And the gamblers can go the other way too. They can buy the BAPs for 30 cents and then play to their heart's content. They should still be able to maintain their cash levels or even earn some money on a net basis with ad issues

Maybe you should go and find some dedicated gamblers to do this (are you reading, Tony?). They could chew up a ton of BAP that way
richiem
Traffic Value: $680.27326 Philippines
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10/12/2019 22:56
I see one incentive for buying bulk ad in PV: You can save 1400 in BAP tax over 14 days.
totoer008
Traffic Value: $1,804.70567 France
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11/12/2019 20:12
You would only need to buy one every 14 days and even then 1 dollars in shares then in baps is more lucrative than that lol.
richiem
Traffic Value: $680.27326 Philippines
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12/12/2019 00:26
Another incentive is that you get 10 days of 1% ads.
richiem
Traffic Value: $680.27326 Philippines
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12/12/2019 04:10
I don't want the admins to think that we only come here when we see something room for improvement. 

So let's talk about something good. Like the "Major Ad Issue" happening on December 31st.

How much do you think will it be?

1000? 2000? 3000?
bambarec
Traffic Value: $17,409.62296 Romania
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15/12/2019 11:08
I voted for both gamesangel but.... what about ''area riders'', you never said anything about it and i see is new launched, three months old?
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