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bambarec
Traffic Value: $17,409.62296 Romania
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05/12/2019 23:32
I just got an ideea, i don't know if is viable or not but here it is:  in order to make people more active, more responsable and to receive a bit more for theyr effort you can intruduce a few ads with no reward(this could bring big revenues because people will be forced to see them in order to see theyr ads and advertisers will pay good) just to unlock the paid ads(3, 4, 5) then you can give posibility for members to chose the specific hour when ads to be released for them. Also give posibility to chose for how long the ads to be available starting, basic to be how it is now and for a biger value of ads they can chose the ads to be available for 10h, 9h,8h...and so on to only one hour. This will make people a lot more active and most of the day not only when the ads are released like now. I think this will generate more income for website because of the free ads, more ads will be recicled because of short time of availability and also people can earn more....
   I think is a win win situation, what do you think?? 
MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
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06/12/2019 00:05
Ptcshare and Paidverts sell advertising and offer an opportunity to make some additional money.
Mainly aimed at helping people in 3rd world countries.
We´ve said a billion times that it´s not an investment platform but it seems these words are taken lightly as it´s the same as scammy hyips tell their users.

Ad issues are heavily skewed towards smaller users, as that´s the focus of the platforms.
More users, more advertising value.
The higher BAP groups are mainly an incentive for gamblers.
Gamblers pay a considerable part of the ad issues on paidverts, but on PtcShare they are with few, probably due to the low amount of games offered.

Furthermore we keep asking people to refer the platform to advertisers, gamblers and friends.
Not to invest 1000s of dollars into it, as again.. We never promise returns and keep telling people it´s not an investment.

At first you get this massive crowd of people wanting to join for the exciting initial stages, which are always short.. Which is why Jo liked to swap and repeat those stages as he had no interest in running the slow and stable game, during which you actually have to make the platform self-sustainable.

So we kept paying $3000 ad issues while a lot less was coming in and then tried to slowly lower it without scaring people off.
But the $3k ad issues were already met with criticism, as people were after ponzi-like returns.
Realistically speaking, we are obviously not able to pay such ad issues as we would have to sell $70.000,- in advertising per month.

If people would use the platform as advertised, they wouldn´t feel cheated.
Put in like $1-$100 max.. It works.
Refer users (advertisers, gamblers, friends).. It works.
Fulfil offers.. It works.
Do surveys.. It works.
Advertise other sites.. It works.
Use the forum to connect to other people/build a network.. It works.

Mtv/crowd funding is an investment and as you can see, the backers of PtcShare made a profit and are soon about to be fully repaid with interest.
Those are the only investments we offer, which we usually guarantee/back up with royalty positions as a last resort option.

With ptc and pv the goal is not full repayment of the pool (as that´s impossible for various reasons), but the goal is stability and offering a place for small users to earn an extra buck, for advertisers to gain traffic and for gamblers to have some fun.
richiem
Traffic Value: $680.27326 Philippines
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06/12/2019 00:52
How about adding some external source of income (AdHitz or Mellow Ads banners) for self-sustainability?
richiem
Traffic Value: $680.27326 Philippines
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06/12/2019 01:54
Another idea that comes to mind is to remove BAP Group Level 12.

That way, we won't encourage too much investing.
druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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06/12/2019 08:17
Wall of text. sorry, not sorry:

I'm here Long Term, and If I'm going to be clicking every day for years on end, I'd rather click n dollars, not cents (or fractions of cents) if I were to max out at $100. Granted, it would have to be ~$10 before the Profit is $10 (though with all the bailers in PTCShare, nowhere near that high).

I'm from a Tier 1 Country, so I have the money available to pay for products, if advertisers want to advertise, they have a better chance to get a sale from members of a Tier 1 country.

I have nothing to advertise. I don't belong to any other site worth advertising. If I knew of a place I could make dollars elsewhere, then yeah, I could advertise that, esp provided I got ref income if I got anyone to join under me.

I do, do surveys, and would do offers. It takes time to get that money (qualification is such a mixed bag and even then the survey takes time to do itself) vs Group Ads, even after considering the reacquired BAP. So, I can't do them all the time. Also, do the daily free BAP for $1/15 offers, and how the survey companies start rejecting you if you have done their survey recently, it's better to space them out anyways.

I don't have a network, and like I said don't belong to any other site, so can't advertise these sites. Well, ok I do belong to a few, but I'm a horrible referer. Before wasting my credits, I want these sites to be an easy sell. The everyday requirement is a huge obstacle. I guess if I knew that the surveys/offers were the most rewarding direct to the member over CS/NB etc, that should work.

I think it's naive to think that these sites aren't geared to those that want to earn and don't have really anything to advertise. This has been the case for years, on many a platform, even non HYIP types. Really only a small % of people out there can successfully market. We want to make some spending money. We know we aren't after replace your job type money. Coca Cola and Oreo should tell me about their new limited-edition flavors. They don't need to be a BAP member, they want me to buy their product. I know, I know, they will only consider us if we have 100s of thousands of active members. But what about smaller businesses, esp local to the user? That's a lot of work that someone has to do to directly interact with the business to get them to try. OFC, members could/should themselves (and get that ref income), but they can't make any type of special deal for first time advertisers. They don't know the ins and outs of the company. They aren't representing the site. As hard as it is to admit, I think Admin need to "open up the phone book" and call/email business by business and drump up the advertisers themselves. If they can learn somethings with the first hundred/thousand and are willing to let members in on the ability to offer special deals w/o having to say "wait, I'll see if they can offer you something" which we all know is not going to that fast back and forth), maybe then members can talk to their local shops. OFC, it can't be too local as our membership is too small to have enough members in one area.

These sites should fine Pure Advertisers. CS/NB don't have BAP Groups. Maybe we shouldn't either, at least not in the current sense. We should sell ofc Targeted Ads. We should also just sell limited clicks, they are sent to everyone, but you only see it if you get there in time. Manual Surf is easier way to implement this. No $ "invested" just ads coming to the user.

If you want BAP Groups, just change it Monthly and Yearly Membership upgrade. Basically a SUU. For EX (#'s not set in stone) For $1, your click value raises from $0.0005 to $0.001, For $2, it's $0.004... There is no guarantee of Profit aka no guarantee you make money. The site needs to sell those type of Bulk ads. Admin would still collect all the money from Bulk Ads of the last Day, and distribute it amongst all these Groups and the number of ads to click per user, while the same per user, would not be set at 23, but could be 1 or 100, depending on how the distribution is. This does means, if not enough was sold for 1 per user, then none would be sent that way, and it would carryover. So, probably, the Admin would try to keep the number decently the same, and not do 0 or 1 some days and 100 other days. I also don't know if there could be 101 groups (or more), so if not, probably limit it to like how they do for donations and do $1, $5, $10, $25, $50, $75, $100, $250 (the last of which we only open up if/when we actually are getting serious money coming in).

Like it or not BAP is an investment. Has always been. If we want to advertise, the other options we get way more bang for our buck.
stark100
Traffic Value: $729.96203 Hungary
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06/12/2019 08:46
I think if we hadn't those investors with much money we couldn't have paid back the backers so fast or at all.
rayden1991
Traffic Value: $684.68747 Bosnia and Herzegowina
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06/12/2019 11:54
rtrplay


DUDE I actually do own a  business " Producing electricity from renewable sources" .


I started from less then zero i was in debt.  So I DO KNOW how to run a successful business. True its not a marketing company like mtv but wait a second i use those same or similar company to boost my business. And guess what successful  marketing was  70% of my success.


So when you advertise ptc as a source of earning money because  BAPS ARE INVESTMENT and as such it HAS TO BRING IN EARNINGS!! 


There is there is 5 major parts of mtv and all the time you hear  how warclicks is doing great how ppmg is bringing in the dollars and so on. And then  the move that he makes is to lower the ad issue on ptc to 500 bleep dollars  so YOU DIVIDE THAT TO 30K members huh? 


I am actualy  member of quite few  programs  DFC  BBC  adfeedz sanze profit .... I could go on  but there is no need ..  I wll add that i have more than $50K  being cycled  and keeps bringing in a good paycheck. this all started from 1000 dollars. So i know how to run a business and i know how to run an online business.


I hate people that assume and talk smack  without knowing the facts. 


And another broken promise " Starting now the ad issues will be more or less around $1000 per day. " is  500  close to a 1000 i dont think so. 


And I am a long time member  been here  for a long time and its not the  money that im worried  about or feel sorry that i lost it. Its the dedication  and my undivided  attention towards any  of the mtvs aspects that is so frustrating.
I entered pv for every single day for past few years  supporting and clicking on ads without a taking money out and i could have done that but i was supportive.

druth8x 
many other people have suggested same or similar changes   but they were always met with rejection. And some of those ideas  were really good  i know so because  adfeedz  admin  created  few programs that are exactly the same as the ideas presented to mtv. 

I have been with mtv since  forever  and i was never here just to take or earn quick buck. I was here for  the  opportunity  of what mtv could become  and what marc  has envisioned  for us . Now not so much.

Of course there is self interest as bambarec  posted a comment and got that simple answers  which to me sounded as piss off. And still he went out of his way too post another idea  that could help mtv. Im the same  i bought baps as an investment which it is  but i didnt get my money out first second i had the chance i supported mtv further.

marc 

 We never promise returns and keep telling people it´s not an investment.   


For every $1 I get  2360 BAP  every 


2360 * 0.0005 = $1.18 


So are you telling me that this isnt a promise of returns ? for every dollar i use to buy baps on your  platform you PROMISE  me 1.18 in return over some amount of time. Isnt that correct ?


Like what the hell  you said it will give returns of 18%   how on this earth do i or people similar to me  wont understand this as and investment ?


You would have to sell 70K of ads to have an add issue of 3000  that is a lot  and  i never asked specifically it to be 3K but you should aim for it . For real so many people suggested awesome ideas and you go and do completely opposite. 

Why couldnt it be 1.5K ad issue than you sell only 35K ?



So you want to tell me that you only sell 11.6K  since you are  putting ad issues of 500 dollars ?




So many good people are leaving or at brink of  leaving  because of these  ridiculously  numbers.

You marc are really  twisting words lately . you say something than  you try to portray it as something else. 
get it in your head in this online business  zero is a zero no matter what you do?

When will you pay of FTQ ?

How much warclics bringing in neto and bruto ? 
How much money is going in to development  of warclicks?
How much in to marketing  of casinos ?
how much for marketing ptc or pv  on other websites?

We cant find the important data or numbers anywhere ? You talk about transparency i think not...


I hate to admit but im still member of mtv i have some shares and some FTQ  money in. When will you tend to those ?
Mariot
Traffic Value: $2,025.34279 Belgium
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06/12/2019 16:44
I take the site as a pleasur to join, I know its a wel reputated site, I love gamble and play every day slots, Ik know last days the payinns are lower and lower but its the fun thats counts!
And I have won in november 5 times the Jackpot.
Sometimes you win and sometimes you loose, but I keep playing every day.
dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
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06/12/2019 22:40
I'm wondering if we are big enough that we can run servers ourselves? We are farming that work out to amazon, correct? Might we be able to do this profitably ourselves and saving the middle man fees?
jordy186
Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands
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07/12/2019 09:03
- Superrewards offerwall seems that they have stopped since December 1st so i guess you should remove that offerwall.

- Personally is not working (General error: 1 table YiiCacheMain already exists)

- still no solution to fill in my profiles on opinionnetwork

- can you please add more PTC offerwalls?
slosumo - Administrator
Traffic Value: $28,438.4426 Slovenia
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07/12/2019 11:30
@jordy sorry missed replying to your screenshot - can you please press F12 again, but select the "console" tab on it <- on that screenshot "Elements" is selected which isn't helpful I'm afraid. And once you get there, can you select all messages in the console and post them here please.

And you get that trying to update any of the profiles correct?
vicura
Traffic Value: $4,969.3683 Spain
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07/12/2019 12:38
I would say that if you don't like paidverts and PTCshare, just don't invest money there. I started with PV in jo's era and sure I was making a lot of money (that I lost with the swaps). Got tired in late 2015 and just haven't entered in PV anymore, moved to MTV where I managed to make pretty nice profit with shares. Now I enter here every 2 days to see how my RP's are going and that's all. No need to spread hate towards this, if you don't like the system, don't put money there. I expected PTCshare to end like it's now after some weeks, that's why I didn't invest there, but rather invested in building the project.
jordy186
Traffic Value: $868.5955 Netherlands
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07/12/2019 12:55
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and yes this i get when i try to update profiles (personal/work/auto/technology etc)
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druth8x
Traffic Value: $22,417.44153 United States
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07/12/2019 13:40
vicura,

To get out of PV would take years, if not decades (*have not done the math).
Or, yeah you could convert to BAP at a huge loss.
Neither are realistic. Might as well sttck with it.

There was also reason to join heavily in PTCShare, as they wouldn't have opened it up if it was just going to be another PV clone.

Also, I don't know how you are making profit via the RP esp as the rates don't move much, if at all. Besides trading is not w/o risk. Many of us bought at 1c, even when that was the guaranteed floor. But even normal trading, the market shifts at the wrong time, and you can be at a loss.
dguy
Traffic Value: $15,993.01608 Canada
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07/12/2019 15:12
Also, to add to the server idea. If we do run our own servers, we could also sell hosting down the road. It may not bring in many customers but we do have a handy advertising platform that is very low cost for us grin

The nice thing about hosting is that it is very 'sticky'. Once people start with you they should tend to stay. I have a site that is expensive but I have stuck with them for years because I would need to make a huge move and then go back through all my ad links to change everything. It's just not worth the effort
klikdiva
Traffic Value: $1,701.2323 Honduras
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07/12/2019 16:59
druth8x,
FYI vicura is the one that has been clogging the RP market for a few months selling millions of RPs at 
0.0006 and re-buying at 0.0005. He made several hundred $ already doing those repeating cycle trades.
Five or six weeks ago he complained about the slowness of the market in one MTV forum thread and said that he would stop trading, but if you search a bit, you will find he placed more sells and re-buys since that statement. 
Since he started doing whale trades, no one of us small fishes has had a chance to make a penny daytrading and we probably won't ever, bc another whale has joined the party recently. angry
rayden1991
Traffic Value: $684.68747 Bosnia and Herzegowina
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08/12/2019 09:49
I like ptc and pv and mtv and Im not spreading hate toward anyone. Im stating the facts . Raw facts where  someone says we are doing great and then ad issue goes down to 500 dollars i mean dont make me repeat my self. 

I d like the system of mtv thats why i stayed  in when almost no one would stay including you . I could be one that ran at first sign of   crapy   management but i didnt i stayed throug good and bad. But now everyone saying we doing good we got income streams from casinos and  games but ad issue  drops to 500 dollars a day. Come on  there is people that INVESTED 10 times  daily issue amount and now they  cant bealive it . And consider their  move to invest money in ptc  a mistake. 

 
alva5763
Traffic Value: $264.40909 Turkey
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08/12/2019 13:15
Surely buying rps at 0.0005 and selling at 0.0006 will lose money when dealing tax is taking into account?
MarcdeKoning - Administrator
Traffic Value: $468,983.12758 Netherlands
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08/12/2019 15:33
Trading is a part of the game and Vicura is making it work for him.
We don´t allow these personal attacks on other members for simply using the tools at hand to make money.
vicura
Traffic Value: $4,969.3683 Spain
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08/12/2019 16:06
Well, oportunities are there, it's in your hand to decide to take profit from them or not. I was also a small fish doing trades to earn some cents and got pissed when "whales" we blocking the market back in 2016.

I don't think I ever said I was be out of the market, basically because I've been trading since I joined MTV, and even if I said so, I might has just changed my mind.

@Klikdiva I felt kinda stalked reading you were tracking me for some monthsermm
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